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Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 3

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jr86

He's hardly saying the players are actually professional. He's right though that they are involved in a professional set-up. I mean training camps often span week-days where players actually have to take time out of work.

And the comparison with AIL wasn't to be taken literally, just used as an example of a 'closed shop' set-up where players are exclusively representing the province and not the 'feeder' clubs, they belong to (like in Wales, the Southern hemisphere). I can definitely see the same happening with County Players in the future

The Lost Sheep

jr86 wrote: »

He's hardly saying the players are actually professional. He's right though that they are involved in a professional set-up. I mean training camps often span week-days where players actually have to take time out of work.

And the comparison with AIL wasn't to be taken literally, just used as an example of a 'closed shop' set-up where players are exclusively representing the province and not the 'feeder' clubs, they belong to (like in Wales, the Southern hemisphere). I can definitely see the same happening with County Players in the future

That players have to take time off work doesnt make it a professional set up. And there wont be a time where players dont ever play for their clubs and only play for the county side. Not enough games at county level for it to happen

seligehgit

PARlance wrote: »

Mayo News Podcast: Interview with Alan Dillon, no politics, just GAA talk.

In which he references the training week in Carton House as very professional.

It's extremely professional in most aspects bar the team getting a salary from it imo.

April is proving to be a long month for Mayo's football fans,with the helter skelter League campaign already becoming a bit of a distant memory while there's still some time to go until the championship season starts to rev up.As an antidote for this hiatus the Mayo News football podcast is back,placing a first audio based stake in the ground ahead of another football summer.The centrepiece of this episode of the podcast is an in depth interview by Mike Finnerty with Alan Dillon.In it,the recently retired two time All Star looks back on the highs and lows of his own inter county career,as well as providing some fascinating insights into what it was like to be part of the current high performance set-up in and around the senior county panel.Alan also looks ahead to next month's Galway game and provides his take on how he feels this crunch fixture could go.Host Rob Murphy and John Gunnigan of the Mayo GAA Blog chat about this odd April off season and John takes a trip down memory lane,when he reminisces on Mayo's shock championship win over the Tribesmen in the 1981 Connacht semi final.Rounding off this episode,Rob talks with Billy Joe Padden who had a close look at Galway when they played Dublin in the League final a few weeks back and who has a few early thoughts on the key tactical issues around which the clash on 13th May is likely to revolve.

http://themayonews.podomatic.com/enclosure/2018-04-18T04_06_33-07_00.mp3

aidan24326

Brannigan would be a significant loss for us, but surely Cillian O'Connor and Lee Keegan would be a more massive blow to Mayo? The game will still be tight no doubt, and you couldn't call it, but those two missing would be a big blow to Mayo's chances. For me Keegan is the best all-round footballer in the country, and Cillian for all his faults and all his detractors is Mayo's scorer in chief. If those two are missing I think the pendulum swings towards Galway. Who knows though, we may see CO'C yet.

blowitupref

aidan24326 wrote: »

Brannigan would be a significant loss for us, but surely Cillian O'Connor and Lee Keegan would be a more massive blow to Mayo? The game will still be tight no doubt, and you couldn't call it, but those two missing would be a big blow to Mayo's chances. For me Keegan is the best all-round footballer in the country, and Cillian for all his faults and all his detractors is Mayo's scorer in chief. If those two are missing I think the pendulum swings towards Galway. Who knows though, we may see CO'C yet.

Grade 2 hamstring Cillian O Connor apparently got v Tyrone on March 18th which is a normally 4 to 6 weeks recovery time so an educated guess would say he will be back for the Galway game.

jr86

aidan24326 wrote: »

Brannigan would be a significant loss for us, but surely Cillian O'Connor and Lee Keegan would be a more massive blow to Mayo? The game will still be tight no doubt, and you couldn't call it, but those two missing would be a big blow to Mayo's chances. For me Keegan is the best all-round footballer in the country, and Cillian for all his faults and all his detractors is Mayo's scorer in chief. If those two are missing I think the pendulum swings towards Galway. Who knows though, we may see CO'C yet.

But Brannigan played a starring role throughout the league whereas Keegan barely played. Mayo have been essentially without him all year anyway so nothing has changed

Galway, though, now have to suddenly plan without Brannigan (if he is out of course) and adapt their game-plan accordingly.

O'Connor would be the biggest loss out of any of them but I'd imagine he'll play unless completely crocked

TCDStudent1

jr86 wrote: »

But Brannigan played a starring role throughout the league whereas Keegan barely played. Mayo have been essentially without him all year anyway so nothing has changed

Galway, though, now have to suddenly plan without Brannigan (if he is out of course) and adapt their game-plan accordingly.

O'Connor would be the biggest loss out of any of them but I'd imagine he'll play unless completely crocked

But Mayo were poor in the league! So not bringing Keegan back into that team is a big big blow. Mayo will need to be an awful lot better than their league performances to beat Galway.

Brannigan was excellent in the league. Easily, his best performances for Galway. But he didn't even make the starting 15 in the corresponding match last year. Still a really big loss and we don't really have a similar type player to replace him. Daly could come in but he has totally different strengths.

jr86

Mayo being poor in the league is fairly par for the course though. It's mainly an exercise in easing a battle-hardened panel into another season's football.

Galway had completely different objectives, and they had basically a full strength team out most weeks where Brannigan played a massive role. On the 13th May they're looking to carry momentum, whereas Mayo are essentially looking to start their season. A half-backline of Coen, Durcan and Boyle is as good as any in the country to do that

Brannigan v Keegan is probably a pointless enough discussion anyway though. With two evenly matched teams variables like the wind, a bad refereeing call, free-taker having an off day (where COC's loss could be felt hugely) etc. will probably be much bigger deciding factors.

PARlance

Keegan is a great player and is a loss but as Jr86 says, it's not as if we don't have really good options. Cillian is the potential big loss... maybe.

To add to that, I think Mayo are at a stage of maturity as a team (and have a sufficient squad of proven players) where missing some key players is taken in it's stride. We had a hard year last year and plenty of players out during the course of it, but it was never an issue. Keegan missed our most impressive display (vs The Rossies) for example.

Losing a key player might affect Galway a bit more as they're a "newer" team. But then again, it mightn't matter a dam... can we just fast forward to May.

km79

PARlance wrote: »

Keegan is a great player and is a loss but as Jr86 says, it's not as if we don't have really good options. Cillian is the potential big loss... maybe.

This weekend we will be 3 weeks out
If he isn’t back training by early next week he won’t start

aidan24326

blowitupref wrote: »

Grade 2 hamstring Cillian O Connor apparently got v Tyrone on March 18th which is a normally 4 to 6 weeks recovery time so an educated guess would say he will be back for the Galway game.

If he's back in full training even a week before the game I'd imagine he will start. In a game that's likely to be feisty, freetaking will be very important so I could see O'Connor starting even if he isn't necessarily a hundred percent. On the other hand I'd expect Keegan won't be risked if there's any doubt.

jr86

aidan24326 wrote: »

If he's back in full training even a week before the game I'd imagine he will start. In a game that's likely to be feisty, freetaking will be very important so I could see O'Connor starting even if he isn't necessarily a hundred percent. On the other hand I'd expect Keegan won't be risked if there's any doubt.

Yeah even at 50% O'Connor will probably play. He'll still take watching so he'll tie up defenders also

muddle84

His mastery of the dark arts will come in handy against Galway also.

manofwisdom

aidan24326 wrote: »

If he's back in full training even a week before the game I'd imagine he will start. In a game that's likely to be feisty, freetaking will be very important so I could see O'Connor starting even if he isn't necessarily a hundred percent. On the other hand I'd expect Keegan won't be risked if there's any doubt.

Keegan injury is longterm O Connors is not. The Mayo news are quoted in saying only Keegan will miss the Galway game and they are a far more reliable source than the Con telegraph.

seligehgit

manofwisdom wrote: »

Keegan injury is longterm O Connors is not. The Mayo news are quoted in saying only Keegan will miss the Galway game and they are a far more reliable source than the Con telegraph.

Stephen Rochford said Lee Keegan would be out for 3-4 months missing the entire Connacht championship if we progress.Likely to be back in July for the super 8s if all goes well.

I've heard so many different stories re Brendan Harrison's injury but I'm inclined to believe he won't be fit for May 13th.

I'd be far more optimistic re Cillian's prospects.

ureds

Tickets for Mayo v Galway will be on sale later today.
Only approx 4,000 stand tickets on general sale and it's reserved seating in the stand.
Tickets cost €30 for the stand and €25 elsewhere.Juveniles are €5.

km79

ureds wrote: »

Tickets for Mayo v Galway will be on sale later today.
Only approx 4,000 stand tickets on general sale and it's reserved seating in the stand.
Tickets cost €30 for the stand and €25 elsewhere.Juveniles are €5.

Lovely that should men’s season ticket holders get reserved seating
Whether it will be abided by is another story

BENDYBINN

ureds wrote: »

Tickets for Mayo v Galway will be on sale later today.
Only approx 4,000 stand tickets on general sale and it's reserved seating in the stand.
Tickets cost €30 for the stand and €25 elsewhere.Juveniles are €5.

30 Euro is a lot to watch an old mayo team get hammered by the up and coming
Galway.

blinding

BENDYBINN wrote: »

ureds wrote: »

Tickets for Mayo v Galway will be on sale later today.
Only approx 4,000 stand tickets on general sale and it's reserved seating in the stand.
Tickets cost €30 for the stand and €25 elsewhere.Juveniles are €5.

30 Euro is a lot to watch an old mayo team get hammered by the up and coming
Galway.

Your lucky that its not compulsory and very lucky if you have 30 Euro . Charity is its own reward .

Call me Al

BENDYBINN wrote: »

30 Euro is a lot to watch an old mayo team get hammered by the up and coming
Galway.

You paid a whole lot more to watch a Kerry team put you to bed and tuck you in last July.

BENDYBINN

Call me Al wrote: »

You paid a whole lot more to watch a Kerry team put you to bed and tuck you in last July.

Gave them a good hiding in their own back yard a month ago

PARlance

BENDYBINN wrote: »

Gave them a good hiding in their own back yard a month ago

If only All Ireland Quarter Finals were played in Tralee.

Coillte_Bhoy

km79 wrote: »

Lovely that should men’s season ticket holders get reserved seating
Whether it will be abided by is another story

Was talking to a lad who is a steward there for every game and he said it will be strictly enforced, He's not looking forward to it he said,

SecretsOfEarth

BENDYBINN wrote: »

Gave them a good hiding in their own back yard a month ago

Yeah, that well-known hiding score of...3 points...in a league round match. Such a defeat, especially when compared to the minor 8 and 7 point defeats they handed to Galway in 2017 and 2014 respectively in two All Ireland quarter finals. Jesus, Galway practically have a curse on Kerry now I'd say.

FullBack Jam

SecretsOfEarth wrote: »

Yeah, that well-known hiding score of...3 points...in a league round match. Such a defeat, especially when compared to the minor 8 and 7 point defeats they handed to Galway in 2017 and 2014 respectively in two All Ireland quarter finals. Jesus, Galway practically have a curse on Kerry now I'd say.

Ah, no. Please don't mention the C word here.

Hulk Hands

Call me Al wrote: »

You paid a whole lot more to watch a Kerry team put you to bed and tuck you in last July.

Think it was 25 quid we we're paying. Do Mayo people really want to start bringing up the past given the respective history of the two counties?

Euphoriasean

Tickets now on sale.

Heraldoffreeent

Hulk Hands wrote: »

Think it was 25 quid we we're paying. Do Mayo people really want to start bringing up the past given the respective history of the two counties?

The cheek!! You realise they won an All Ireland nearly 70 years ago????

Call me Al

Hulk Hands wrote: »

Think it was 25 quid we we're paying. Do Mayo people really want to start bringing up the past given the respective history of the two counties?

Do you really think we care what you want to bring up lol!

Bunny Colvin

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