dryan wrote: » Ahh, bit disapointed to be honest with the grades considering the amount of feed they got the last six weeks.... although its not the first time there were grading issues with the same factory (midlands, kilbeggan area) over the last year.... a mixture of CHX and LMX. Thought i would have a few U grades on the batch but ended up with a mixture of R+ and R=, FS all in 3 range. Weights just about OK. by the time i replace them there will be f*** all left to play with...
CloughCasey1 wrote: » Mine killed out poorly also. 330kg ave all O+ 3=/+. 28mts ave. No profit this time round. ☺
Bass Reeves wrote: » How long had you then what gross margin did they leave
whelan2 wrote: » Sent a red fr cow to the factory last week, she had bad feet and we had to cut off two of her teats, she was being fed well since last November, she weighed307kg dead @ 3.20 euro/kg came into 985 euro graded p2
dryan wrote: » i do my best to get cattle in and out within the 12 month time frame on average. doesnt always work out.... my gross margin per animal, for me this is what i have left over once i have replaced the ones i have sold. i do try and target 600 - 650 gross margin per animal. for example, if i kill 10 bullocks at an average of 1650 each, i do my best to replace them for the 1000 euro each.
Cavanjack wrote: » Always find the hex don't die well. They look well and all but usually disappointed with their weights.
gerryirl wrote: » what weight replacement weanlings/stores are you buying at €1000
dryan wrote: » Im just using this figure as an example. i try buy in replacement stores in the 380 - 450kg weight range. The price i pay for these are controlled to certain extent by factory prices. sometimes i can pick up replacements at < 1000 if factory prices are low. other times i could go to 1150 if factory prices are high.
Bass Reeves wrote: » The cattle that you killed early in the week averages shy of 1600 euro at a guess. To maintain your margin you need to buy sub 1000. As well I imagine that they were finished on silage and ration. I imagine that an average winter costs you over 300/head to finish. I cannot see a net margin of 200/head in them. It is interesting that I saw Adam Woods in the beef section on the back pages reccommending to lads to finishing forward stores out of the shed in June on adlib ration. Not sure which planet he is on with ration prices going up. But then again Teagasc and the Journal are always pushing production at any cost. But with cattle in 6 months and on ration to some extend it is hard to see thrive in this situation and cost's hitting over 3 euro/head/day. If lads follow this advice and too many do it you could see a price fall in early June. You would want you straw and silage already in there I imagine a decent ration will cost at least 240/ton and a nut more. Hard to see any margin in that game. He is trying to solve one issue ( possible shortage of silage) by adding huge cost into a fragile system. My advice is finish outside in July/Aug and reduce numbers for next winter.
gerryirl wrote: » I have to agree with you on that one..I picked out a few heavy stores last back end to have finished early. I like many other were hoping to have them on grass a month ago but there not. Im giving them a fair shot of meal and there no where near ready.When they get grass theyll fly it but Id not like to at it till june thats for sure. You'd be robbed. Im giving them a nut its 300 a tonne
blue5000 wrote: » I think it's probably because of fat cover and marbling. Fat isn't as dense as muscle. Any lift in prices? Meal has gone up a fair whack in the last few weeks.
Cavanjack wrote: » That's some money for a finishing nut. What's in it?
tanko wrote: » What would a 25 month old CH x Lim heifer killing out U= 4= 432 kgs about a month ago have made? What liveweight was she?
valtra2 wrote: » Have a bb bull here that got a hurt a few months ago and is a bit lame on front leg so can't go to mart. He is 16 months in 2 weeks. And is 700kg. What would ppl do was thinking of factory. Rang and can get 4.10 on the grid. Never sent anything to factory before. All advice welcome.
TITANIUM. wrote: » Been poking in the progeny section of Herdplus have we. She must have been some heifer. I'd be guessing around the 1800 mark but I'll let the experts here give you a precise anwser.
blue5000 wrote: » You'd need to get him to a 2+ minimum for fat cover. Is he in or out? He won't thrive on slats with a lame foot, can you get the foot trimmed or is the hurt higher up?
valtra2 wrote: » He in on straw. No he hurt up higher. Got hurt when he was 8 months old had vet out twice and just said it might come right. Has not got worse
