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Is it illegal to tear down posters

Mrhuth

Like you see some bs advertising like 20 signs of brainwashed VOTE NO everywhere. Are they authorised to be put up and can I tear them down for spreading fake information? There is one thing I cannot handle and that is propaganda.

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OldMrBrennan83

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Hector Savage

I really hope the 8th is repealed, if I could vote YES I would but I don't live in Ireland anymore.

But I can't stand this fascism from the far left taking down posters they don't like !!!
There is enough allready for it to be repealed !! Don't worry , this is needless ...

whisky_galore

Jimbob1977 wrote: »

It's a strange situation so far.

I've seen plenty of one side's posters in a five mile radius of my home.

Nothing from the other side, although maybe that will change over time. It's still five weeks to go.

The Yes side haven't even gotten out of bed yet, just bathing in the glow of all their Facebook buddies' shares, likes and profile pic stickers.

mach1982

Same thing happen in Marge Ref, Yes side took No side posters down , as they said they homophobic and offensive . I sure a lot of the people complaining about the No side taking Yes side posters in this referendum were cheering when the posters for No side in Marriage Ref were taken down.

Problem with referendum is that there is no respect , if you don't have the same view as "society" you labeled as a stupid , evil, out of touched . We live a democracy not a dictatorship ship, people will have different views and they should be respected .

groovyg

Do people actually learn anything or are influenced by those posters? I saw a thread on twitter yesterday where one person said they should be banned.
The response was that would be anti-democratic and people learn who the candidates are in elections. In the last GE in addition to seeing those ugly posters everywhere all the candidates in my area did a postal drop as well so I had leaflets from everyone was running.
Its the same this time I've already had three No Save the 8th leaflets dropped in my post box.

sbsquarepants

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: »

Probably one of the best campaign posters I've seen.

My own personal favourite was Mary Harney in all her radiant beauty with the slogan "Don't throw it all away" to which some astute political commentator had added "I'll eat it":D

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

Remember that beauty from Clifford T Reid "STOP THE PAEDOPHILES" as he grinned out at you from the poster in his tank top. Probably one of the best campaign posters I've seen. I shamelessly robbed one of them from a street light in Athlone in 2004.

Ah, the halcyon days.

granturismo

Mrhuth wrote: »

I'll cut them all down at night. Can't take this bs. **** off.

And how will you dispose of these posters and all those cable ties?

Will you be using the posters as toboggans next winter?

Jimbob1977

Jimbob1977 wrote: »

If we take down the posters, we should take out the Citizens Assembly next.

MOD: Off Topic discussion removed. There is a big shiny thread here to discuss what you posted, just not here.

Apologies on my behalf

Jimbob1977

It's a strange situation so far.

I've seen plenty of one side's posters in a five mile radius of my home.

Nothing from the other side, although maybe that will change over time. It's still five weeks to go.

Very different from a General Election or a Lisbon/Nice Treaty where the town is festooned with poster.

Neither side should deface the opposite side's posters.

deandean

I think there should be a referendum. Let the People decide whether or not posters should be allowed on poles.

Anastasia_

Here's a better idea -

https://twitter.com/maraclarke/status/986733957906681856

sbsquarepants

Mrhuth wrote: »

I would like to take all the posters down from both sides.

I'm going to take a guess that you're quite young and that this is a generational thing.

Yes we live in a digital age, but not all of us, at least not equally.

I'm old enough to remember a time with no internet, no mobile phones, no connectivity whatsoever once you left your house (and I'm only in my early 40's)
There are still a huge number of people in this country for whom the internet simply doesn't exist, posters are a necessary evil - and in all honesty are probably much more carefully controlled than the demented ramblings of @burnallsinners on twitter or whatnot!

whisky_galore

Mrhuth wrote: »

I would like to take all the posters down from both sides.

This I would agree with.
Enough noise and chatter as it is on Twatter, Bookface and wall-to-wall media coverage. This just adds to the physical rubbish on the streets.

kylith

wexie wrote: »

okay okay okay!!!

I don't think either side are doing themselves any favours, in my most humble opinion. But maybe I could have been clearer

But _how_ aren’t the Yes side doing themselves any favours? As I said other than a couple of outliers who have been roundly contracdicted within the Repeal campaign I haven’t heard anything. Please tell me.

wexie

kylith wrote: »

How aren’t they doing themselves any favours? What have they done that’s worse than the No campaign: using fake doctors, using a fake nurse, misrepresenting themselves as midwives while canvassing, handing out signs with fascist logos to unknowing teenagers at repeal rallies, using anti-repeal plants with revolting slogans at repeal rallies so they can photograph them and misrepresent the repeal side, lying about what is involved in an abortion at 12 weeks, lying about the terms of the referendum, putting graphic poster outside schools and in places where children are likely to see them, not reporting where funding comes from, inflating numbers at anti-repeal rallies, and illegally not putting supplier information on posters.

okay okay okay!!!

I don't think either side are doing themselves any favours, in my most humble opinion. But maybe I could have been clearer

sbsquarepants

CeilingFly wrote: »

I don't think I've heard any actual argument for a yes vote other that "the no side are wrong".

Sounds like the perfect (in fact only) reason to vote yes to me?

kylith

wexie wrote: »

Having said that, I'd agree with you that the yes-side aren't doing themselves (or their cause) many favours.

Let's leave it at that though, you're very right.

How aren’t they doing themselves any favours? What have they done that’s worse than the No campaign: using fake doctors, using a fake nurse, misrepresenting themselves as midwives while canvassing, handing out signs with fascist logos to unknowing teenagers at repeal rallies, using anti-repeal plants with revolting slogans at repeal rallies so they can photograph them and misrepresent the repeal side, lying about what is involved in an abortion at 12 weeks, lying about the terms of the referendum, putting graphic poster outside schools and in places where children are likely to see them, not reporting where funding comes from, inflating numbers at anti-repeal rallies, and illegally not putting supplier information on posters.

Hitman3000

Jimbob1977 wrote:

Keep the posters. For both sides.

Once they are factual and legal I have no problem, except the deliberately offensive ones. They don't get to stay.

wexie

sbsquarepants wrote: »

like those youth defence cretins last time around.

Now there's a word that just doesn't get used enough, cretins.

Jimbob1977

Hitman3000 wrote: »

Any thoughts on the topic of the thread? Or are you lost?

Keep the posters. For both sides.

Mrhuth

sbsquarepants wrote: »

I agree with your sentiment but I don't think you have a good grasp of the democratic process. Allowing one side of a debate only is not democracy, no matter how benevolent you think your actions.

This is the very basis of the idea that power corrupts - you don't get to decide what is acceptable and what is not, that way lies tyranny!

I'll be voting yes, and I agree with you that the no side can be a bit pontificating and annoying not to mention downright dishonest - but since when was politics, religion or society in general ever any different.
They have their views / beliefs and they are fully entitled to them and even fully entitled to encourage others to also live by them.

What they aren't entitled to is their own facts - facts are facts, they don't have any ideology. I have to say although I've seen many times more no posters than yes, I haven't personally seen anything I'd find particularly objectionable, like those youth defence cretins last time around.

I would like to take all the posters down from both sides.

sbsquarepants

Mrhuth wrote: »

Good, I'll be taking them all down in my street.

I agree with your sentiment but I don't think you have a good grasp of the democratic process. Allowing one side of a debate only is not democracy, no matter how benevolent you think your actions.

This is the very basis of the idea that power corrupts - you don't get to decide what is acceptable and what is not, that way lies tyranny!

I'll be voting yes, and I agree with you that the no side can be a bit pontificating and annoying not to mention downright dishonest - but since when was politics, religion or society in general ever any different.
They have their views / beliefs and they are fully entitled to them and even fully entitled to encourage others to also live by them.

What they aren't entitled to is their own facts - facts are facts, they don't have any ideology. I have to say although I've seen many times more no posters than yes, I haven't personally seen anything I'd find particularly objectionable, like those youth defence cretins last time around.

Hitman3000

Jimbob1977 wrote:

We're going down a dangerous road where a group of 100 people ('randomly selected') are given that influence.

Any thoughts on the topic of the thread? Or are you lost?

Jimbob1977

If we take down the posters, we should take out the Citizens Assembly next.

MOD: Off Topic discussion removed. There is a big shiny thread here to discuss what you posted, just not here.

garbo speaks

Coffee Fulled Runner wrote: »

I'd prefer if all election and referendum posters were banned. Its a dated form of media at this stage

Don't think you are going to get your wish- looking on another thread there seems to be lots of simpletons who are contributing money to that online crowdfunding campaign for thousands of 'Yes' posters.

Mrhuth

Tigger wrote: »

Math fail!!

Math fail with no calculations? IQ fail

RocketRaccoon

"I don't like the message so I'm going to destroy someone elses property and litter the streets"

Our snowflake generation folks.

snoopy84

Beechwoodspark wrote:

Actually your attitude is enforcing my decision to not vote yes.

Why would you take so many women's rights away from them just because you don't like this one persons attitude. Will people please start taking the importance of this referendum seriously and remember it's only a few weeks that you'll have to listen to the campaigns and then it will be all over.

Coffee Fulled Runner

I'd prefer if all election and referendum posters were banned. Its a dated form of media at this stage. Saying that, I don't agree with taking down posters of opposition or simply because you don't agree with what is on the poster. That's just wrong and counter productive in my opinion.