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kinda Choked!

Sam Quentin

So it's not often I get 'kinda choked'.
But I'm watching the Late Late show repeat...
And WELL..... isn't Laura Brennan.........
JUST AMAZING..

That's all.

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pleas advice

a good solid thump on the chest will sort ya out

Outlaw Pete

Yeah, she's an inspiration for sure. Someone with real problems and yet she appreciates life more than many that have little or no problems to speak of (comparatively speaking at least).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CEzrxOKl0Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SyL5Ayt9y8

Sam Quentin

pleas advice wrote: »

a good solid thump on the chest will sort ya out

Ahhh seriously.
I can't get over her........
I dunno, she's just amazing and a credit to her parents.

pleas advice

I didn't recognise the name, but i saw a bit of it on the night, fair play to her...

RobertKK

She is great and if one gets a bad deal you can’t give up.
When I watched her on the late late show, Nuala O’Faolain came into my mind and the constrast in how she was when she talked about her cancer on the Marian Finucane show.
Laura being very positive and getting on with life and Nuala being so angry with life and full of self pity which I don’t believe helped her.
None of us know when our time could be up, everyday could be our last day so Laura Brennan is the type of person most of us want in our lives. We can all look on the bad side of things but all we can do with life is make the best of it with what we are dealt.

pickarooney

It's OK, Rory, there's always next year.

kneemos

Another one of Turbiddy's ****ing cancer victims.

I swear he gets off on this stuff.

currants

RobertKK wrote: »

She is great and if one gets a bad deal you can’t give up.
When I watched her on the late late show, Nuala O’Faolain came into my mind and the constrast in how she was when she talked about her cancer on the Marian Finucane show.
Laura being very positive and getting on with life and Nuala being so angry with life and full of self pity which I don’t believe helped her.
None of us know when our time could be up, everyday could be our last day so Laura Brennan is the type of person most of us want in our lives. We can all look on the bad side of things but all we can do with life is make the best of it with what we are dealt.

I thought Nuala O'Faolain was very brave in being so honest about how she felt, the despair is natural surely. I remember being struck by her saying all the goodness went out of life when she got her diagnosis, it was very raw but struck me as her dissecting her illness as she had many other parts of her life as a writer. I take your point about her frame of mind not helping her illness but she knew she wasn't going to recover and couldn't get past being on that final countdown. God knows I don't think I could either.
Laura Brennan is a superhuman, there aren't that many people who could cope with her diagnosis the way she does but I'm sure she's has her dark moments too.

Let people with terminal cancer respond how they want to, with positivity or despair, I'd hate to think anyone would feel pressured to behave in a certain way-I know you weren't saying that RobertKK and your point was more about NOF not allowing herself any joy in her final months because of her despair

We cant all be like Laura.

RobertKK

currants wrote: »

I thought Nuala O'Faolain was very brave in being so honest about how she felt, the despair is natural surely. I remember being struck by her saying all the goodness went out of life when she got her diagnosis, it was very raw but struck me as her dissecting her illness as she had many other parts of her life as a writer. I take your point about her frame of mind not helping her illness but she knew she wasn't going to recover and couldn't get past being on that final countdown. God knows I don't think I could either.
Laura Brennan is a superhuman, there aren't that many people who could cope with her diagnosis the way she does but I'm sure she's has her dark moments too.

Let people with terminal cancer respond how they want to, with positivity or despair, I'd hate to think anyone would feel pressured to behave in a certain way-I know you weren't saying that RobertKK and your point was more about NOF not allowing herself any joy in her final months because of her despair

We cant all be like Laura.

We all have to accept that our lives are just temporary, that is why when Nuala spoke it came across as if she hadn’t accepted that dying is a part of life and something we all have to face.
I hope to live for a long time still, but I do accept that something unforeseen could occur later today and I could be 6 feet under in 2 to 3 days time.
I think the attitude towards one’s own mortality is something some people don’t want to think about and then faced with the reality they get angry over it, but I do think as adults we should accept death as something natural and use it to make the time we got as something worthwhile.
Woe to me I’m dying...everyday we are all closer to death, we don’t know the time or the hour but it could happen anytime. Death is something we all have to learn to accept, both as we see loved ones die and our own death which will happen.

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Laura is amazing in her positivity. Death will come to us and yes it would be wonderful if we were all accepting and in our acceptance grabbed life and loved every second of it. But it's not as straightforward as that. I will never forget that interview with Nuala O'faoilan. She spoke honestly about how she felt and it was painful to listen to. I understand though. It must be terrifying to be told that you only have so much time left, that your illness is incurable.

The lucky ones will do their utmost to make the best of the hands they've been dealt, to find a way to cope. At night when they are alone maybe the fear creeps in. Most of us though, I don't know. Whatever my take on it, it really doesn't matter. People must be allowed grieve or celebrate their lives in their own way be that clinging on and fighting and hoping or finding a way to be optimistic regardless of the circumstances.

RobertKK

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Laura is amazing in her positivity. Death will come to us and yes it would be wonderful if we were all accepting and in our acceptance grabbed life and loved every second of it. But it's not as straightforward as that. I will never forget that interview with Nuala O'faoilan. She spoke honestly about how she felt and it was painful to listen to. I understand though. It must be terrifying to be told that you only have so much time left, that your illness is incurable.

The lucky ones will do their utmost to make the best of the hands they've been dealt, to find a way to cope. At night when they are alone maybe the fear creeps in. Most of us though, I don't know. Whatever my take on it, it really doesn't matter. People must be allowed grieve or celebrate their lives in their own way be that clinging on and fighting and hoping or finding a way to be optimistic regardless of the circumstances.

I don’t think self pity in any circumstance makes the situation better for the person. It’s sad but if one has a known limited time, that is such a waste of time if one doesn’t do stuff they always wanted while they still can. I’m dying the joy in life has gone...it isn’t going to be a making the best of whatbone is dealt.
Self pity is like applying brakes to one’s life, giving up the fight and surrendering to the negative.
Marian Finicane at the end of the interview had to reassure other people with cancer that most people get cured given the despair that Nuala espoused.

kneemos

We should give these Late Show cancer victims marks out of ten for stoicism.

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RobertKK wrote: »

I don’t think self pity in any circumstance makes the situation better for the person. It’s sad but if one has a known limited time, that is such a waste of time if one doesn’t do stuff they always wanted while they still can. I’m dying the joy in life has gone...it isn’t going to be a making the best of whatbone is dealt.
Self pity is like applying brakes to one’s life, giving up the fight and surrendering to the negative.
Marian Finicane at the end of the interview had to reassure other people with cancer that most people get cured given the despair that Nuala espoused.

Self-pity? If there is any circumstance where a person can feel sorry for themselves it is when they are dying. Like I mentioned in my post there is nothing straightforward about any of this. What about the people who lose someone they love? Aren't they entitled to some self-pity?

Graces7

RobertKK wrote: »

I don’t think self pity in any circumstance makes the situation better for the person. It’s sad but if one has a known limited time, that is such a waste of time if one doesn’t do stuff they always wanted while they still can. I’m dying the joy in life has gone...it isn’t going to be a making the best of whatbone is dealt.
Self pity is like applying brakes to one’s life, giving up the fight and surrendering to the negative.
Marian Finicane at the end of the interview had to reassure other people with cancer that most people get cured given the despair that Nuala espoused.

Grieving is a vital and healthy part of any acceptance of life and death matters

Personally I do nor like to see it celebrity-ised as is being done here Makes me cringe. And I always wonder how much is, well for the cameras.. and now many face cancer alone.
Nuala's words are more honest than Laura;s and many will resonate with her.

Yo see self pity as weak and ??permanent? No it is not, but a stage to go through fully and wholly,

And yes, brakes, to reassess and accept. Illness like that changes life .

Graces7

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Self-pity? If there is any circumstance where a person can feel sorry for themselves it is when they are dying. Like I mentioned in my post there is nothing straightforward about any of this. What about the people who lose someone they love? Aren't they entitled to some self-pity?

Thanks; should have read this before I posted... I think the terminology is skewed that we mean different things by self pity?

It is by the way a dreadfully demeaning and destructive thing to accuse anyone of. And accusing makes it harder for folk to move through it and accept and learn to live within the illness.
Grief and sorrow are not self pity.

RobertKK

How many people actually contemplate their own mortality so they are prepared for what life brings them?
I saw my own father and he was elderly and he would talk about dying in a positive light many years before he did die, he would say that he didn’t mind death, that the worst part of death was for the people left behind as they are the ones who have to deal with it.
A lot of people don’t want to think about their death, many people are in denial about it as they don’t want to think about it, and society doesn’t help in this area. If one thinks about their death and comes around to an acceptance of it when health, I think it makes it easier when actually faced with it.
There is a lot of ‘dont be talking about death’ but I think we all need to deep down think about it and find a place where one has an acceptance of their own mortality.
We all have to die and we should have ourselves prepared for it, and not treat it as something that is never going to happen.
I am not sad or depressed when I think today is Tuesday and I could be 6 feet under by Thursday or Friday. It is life and the gift of being alive means death is something that gift of life also gives, in what is the great circle of life.

Graces7

Robert. You are a man and we women think differently ? and you have a deep faith and are much older than these young women and with much more experience of life and peaceful death

Others are not so blessed. My family died violently and prematurely one after the other and it changes how you feel about death. I have indelible images in my mind of them. From when I was 16 onwards,

Believe me on that,and please, try to empathise ? to allow us to be different in how we react, without judging..
Also many cancer meds affect mood and have terrible side effects.

Patience and prayer!

[Deleted User]

I agree with you Robert, that we do need to talk more about death and maybe then we will find it easier to accept. My own father is 74 and has no problem discussing his wishes and practical things like burial plots when the time comes. It's different for me though. It absolute petrifies me and I will not be stoic in it's face. The point I was trying to make in my other posts was that we will each have our own way of coping.

Since February I've attended three funerals. If only I could see them as a celebration of the person's life then maybe they would have been easier to take. But I didn't and they were awful. I take my hat off to anyone who can find acceptance and positivity regarding death.