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Belfast rape trial discussion thread II

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This thread is for continuing the discussion of the recent Belfast rape trial. The old thread can be found here.

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Tigger

Appledreams15 wrote: »

I like men...outside Ireland. Very happy where I am right now

When you say ireland do you mean the island or the country ?

Muff Richardson II

Appledreams15 wrote: »

I like men...outside Ireland. Very happy where I am right now

Just a wild guess but I’d say you like Pringles and ice cream too whether they are Irish or not?

Fann Linn

mfceiling wrote: »

Is that like ALL men in Ireland?
Every single one of them?

I'd say they've dodged a bullet.

mfceiling

Appledreams15 wrote: »

I like men...outside Ireland. Very happy where I am right now

Is that like ALL men in Ireland?
Every single one of them?

upandcumming

givyjoe wrote: »

Has anyone ever told you that you bear a striking resemblance to midland missus?

Yea, poor old Apples had that thrown at her in the last thread. It is striking alright.

givyjoe

Appledreams15 wrote: »

I like men...outside Ireland. Very happy where I am right now

So are we

Has anyone ever told you that you bear a striking resemblance to midland missus?

Foxtrol

facehugger99 wrote: »

That's not how it works.

500k the bold Paddy spent. Will be lucky to get even a small percentage of it back.

He'll be a few years playing in France to break even and that's before you consider all the losses he will suffer due to the toxicity of his 'brand'.

Tough lesson for him to learn - hopefully other young men will take note and learn some lessons from this too.

Won't take him too long at all to hit that amount given the hefty money he'll be taking in from the IRFU, new team, and the BBC. French sponsors won't care too much if Mary from Port Laoise writes an angry tweet about them once before she moves onto her next thing to be outraged at and forgets all about Paddy Jackson.

upandcumming

Appledreams15 wrote: »

Doesn't Ireland's 5% rape conviction rate give us a big concern also?

Hasn't this been debunked loads of times already?

upandcumming

Appledreams15 wrote: »

what he apologised for.

Here it is again!

facehugger99 wrote: »

The behaviour Paddy's apologised for. It's been all over the news for weeks now- what thread do you think you're posting in?

upandcumming wrote: »

That is the only answer people can give - "bu bu bu bu look at the apology!"

But that isn't actually an answer.

Appledreams15

Muff Richardson II wrote: »

reviews marvellous for politicians to get a pat on the back and keep your like quiet until you forget and move on to the next campaign of all men are scum and why are we so oppressed.

I like men...outside Ireland. Very happy where I am right now

Muff Richardson II

facehugger99 wrote: »

That's not how it works.

500k the bold Paddy spent. Will be lucky to get even a small percentage of it back.

He'll be a few years playing in France to break even and that's before you consider all the losses he will suffer due to the toxicity of his 'brand'.

Tough lesson for him to learn - hopefully other young men will take note and learn some lessons from this too.

I did think the 100k figure sounded a bit shy for 8 months or so.

I agree on the learning lesson for other young men, do not bring some drunk neurotic lunatic back to your house where you can leave yourself open to being accused of something you didn’t do.

Muff Richardson II

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

Is there any consumer agency you can bring this to the attention of? Other unsuspecting consumers could be similarly ripped off?
Can the brazzers be struck off or something?

I brought it to Bord Fáilte’s attention when I got back in case any tourists here had a similar experience but I didn’t get a response. Not sure if I’ve any recourse with the orchard towers at this late stage, I did express my dissatisfaction at the time and was shown the door in head lock by a fella that looked like that **** actor the rock but with the head of Jackie chans. I’m all ears if you’ve any suggestions.

#ibelievehim

tritium

facehugger99 wrote: »

That's not how it works.

500k the bold Paddy spent. Will be lucky to get even a small percentage of it back.

He'll be a few years playing in France to break even and that's before you consider all the losses he will suffer due to the toxicity of his 'brand'.

Tough lesson for him to learn - hopefully other young men will take note and learn some lessons from this too.

And don’t forget the damage when that binding UN resolution comes through,,,,,

Roger Hassenforder

Silentcorner wrote: »

More spoof....keep it coming this is hilarious!!

I thought i heard something...

Nope, just the wind blowing.

[Deleted User]

facehugger99 wrote: »

That's not how it works.

500k the bold Paddy spent. Will be lucky to get even a small percentage of it back.

He'll be a few years playing in France to break even and that's before you consider all the losses he will suffer due to the toxicity of his 'brand'.

Tough lesson for him to learn - hopefully other young men will take note and learn some lessons from this too.

That's interesting. A tough lesson indeed - for all concerned.

Roger Hassenforder

Muff Richardson II wrote: »

Things are fairly hazy from the night but I’m pretty sure they weren’t issuing any kind of money back dissatisfaction receipts or vouchers at the fishbowl. It didn’t end well, I got a bit mouthy with one of them telling her to pick up her game, pun intended, and I was sent packing.

Is there any consumer agency you can bring this to the attention of? Other unsuspecting consumers could be similarly ripped off?
Can the brazzers be struck off or something?

Silentcorner

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

The Ulster taxpayer, after their police force found insufficient evidence and recommended no prosecution, a recommendation subsequently ignored, should pick up innocent Paddy's tab!

More spoof....keep it coming this is hilarious!!

Roger Hassenforder

Squatter wrote: »

Indeed. The innocent Ulster taxpayers should pick up Paddy's tab.

The Ulster taxpayer, after their police force found insufficient evidence and recommended no prosecution, a recommendation subsequently ignored, should pick up innocent Paddy's tab!

facehugger99

Deleted User wrote: »

No. If someone is taken to court and found not guilty, then they shouldn't be out of pocket.

That's not how it works.

500k the bold Paddy spent. Will be lucky to get even a small percentage of it back.

He'll be a few years playing in France to break even and that's before you consider all the losses he will suffer due to the toxicity of his 'brand'.

Tough lesson for him to learn - hopefully other young men will take note and learn some lessons from this too.

Silentcorner

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

In some deluded manner you thought you were badgering me about not having empathy for the girl, and when that particular house of cards collapsed, you've moved the goalpost out to the 22, and are now banging on about a "disgusting comment" made about threesomes. Very poor calibre stuff.
Go back to your "but...but...she was crying sure even the taxi driver said it" sthick as evidence of a rape.

Jasis i forgot, we're done.
Yea, like whatever.

So your changing the subject right...poor calibre stuff indeed...

Absolute spoofer!

Muff Richardson II

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

Would you not have asked for your money back?

Things are fairly hazy from the night but I’m pretty sure they weren’t issuing any kind of money back dissatisfaction receipts or vouchers at the fishbowl. It didn’t end well, I got a bit mouthy with one of them telling her to pick up her game, pun intended, and I was sent packing.

Roger Hassenforder

Silentcorner wrote: »

Where have I changed the subject....you have been studiously avoiding taking responsibility for your disgusting comments...and attempting to deflect and change the subject while doing so...

In some deluded manner you thought you were badgering me about not having empathy for the girl, and when that particular house of cards collapsed, you've moved the goalpost out to the 22, and are now banging on about a "disgusting comment" made about threesomes. Very poor calibre stuff.
Go back to your "but...but...she was crying sure even the taxi driver said it" sthick as evidence of a rape.

Jasis i forgot, we're done.
Yea, like whatever.

Squatter

Deleted User wrote: »

No. If someone is taken to court and found not guilty, then they shouldn't be out of pocket.

Indeed. The innocent Ulster taxpayers should pick up Paddy's tab.

Do you reckon that they should also have to pay for Paddy's father's £1,000 car parking bill?

skearnsot

FrancieBrady wrote: »

At no point before sexual activity began was she 'surrounded by big strong rugby players'. She was already engaged in activity with Jackson when Olding entered the room.

You cannot 'perceive' something that did not happen. It is disingenuous, not to mention dangerous and people have being doing it since the start of the thread.

Well if ya don’t want to be surrounded by big strong rugby players - don’t go to a house party with strangers in a rugby players house where there will be other big strong rugby players - because the word surrounded is used it doesn’t necessarily mean she was surrounded in a threatening manner

Silentcorner

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

You know your winning an argument with a woman when they change the subject but continue to argue.
Go back and read the context of that to which you keep referring to, bearing in mind that which ive spelled out to you.

We're done. You're going around in circles with your fingers in your ears (thats figuratively speaking, not literal), offering nothing but "but..but...she was crying..."

Where have I changed the subject....you have been studiously avoiding taking responsibility for your disgusting comments...and attempting to deflect and change the subject while doing so...

Roger Hassenforder

Muff Richardson II wrote: »

two of them bent over the end of the bed chatting to each other about the price of rice or something in malay, one of them checking their nails and tutting whilst i was stumbling around the room with my bags around my ankles trying to pull off the performance of a lifetime. the two hoors ganged up on me. absolutely no understanding of customer being always right and all that. hugely disappointing experience. i completely empathise with complainant. learning experience.

Would you not have asked for your money back?

Silentcorner

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

Ive a suspicion their claim of being "top shaggers" was made toungue in cheek, and as part of their childish and immature "bants". I seriously doubt anyone thinks they are in fact a top shagger, particulary when appraising anothers performance.

(Did you ever think the girl in fact got better value, two top rugby players in the same session? The lads after all got 1/2 a share in the same girl).

If nothing else maybe girls will stop throwing themselves at these guys and devaluing their productso cheaply.

That is the point you made, your words....absolutely disgusting when you consider the state she arrived home in, you should be ashamed of yourself.

mfceiling

If anything comes out of this whole sorry mess it's a lesson learned in curbing your alcohol intake.
That goes for both sexes.

FrancieBrady

Faugheen wrote: »

The independent witness also said that she couldn't say for sure that the complainant was positively consenting. So there we go.

I can give my opinion on what happened that night, you have no right to tell me I'm trying to 'undermine' the case, when I'm not.

I would like an apology from you for claiming that I implied Olding and Jackson used force on her with absolutely no evidence other misrepresenting what I said.

At no point before sexual activity began was she 'surrounded by big strong rugby players'. She was already engaged in activity with Jackson when Olding entered the room.

You cannot 'perceive' something that did not happen. It is disingenuous, not to mention dangerous and people have being doing it since the start of the thread.

Muff Richardson II

Appledreams15 wrote: »

They have launched a review into all sexual assault trials in Ireland.

reviews

marvellous for politicians to get a pat on the back and keep your like quiet until you forget and move on to the next campaign of all men are scum and why are we so oppressed.