mfceiling wrote: » People change their minds? Not on here they don't. They are presented with a jury returning a verdict which clears 2 men of rape but to the I'll informed they are still guilty. Who's the "little bad mannered chap"? Seems I touched a nerve with you before and you've the shield up. Run along and find another crusade to join when this one's over "like a good little chap".
NAGDEFI wrote: » Did it ever cross your mind that a lot of people across the spectrum, of both genders, say NO. That's not acceptable behaviour from somebody representing their country. Regardless of the men being found not guilty of rape? They have an opinion, and because it differs from yours they need not be denigrated as a mob, twitterati, feminazis. In that case your opinions are only representative of a smaller 'mob'. I want men representing my country who respect women. And if many speak of terms such as fcuking sluts, spit roasting etc, that doesn't make it right. It's time people were held accountable for their behaviour before this type of language and attitude becomes a norm throughout society.
NAGDEFI wrote: » Your brother in law the solicitor! Wow! Aren't we in excellent company this evening.
B0jangles wrote: » Why do you think I am not concerned with fairness? I admit that I find it a little depressing that if a poster with known feminist tendencies were to say that women should assume all men are potential rapists, there would be mass outrage, but when its one of your own, it's apparently just common sense to assume that all men are potential rapists. It's not exactly unexpected, but depressing all the same.
NAGDEFI wrote: » You were very bad mannered a few days ago and can't handle the heat .
mfceiling wrote: » Lads you are wasting your time trying to defend the lads. The mob had their minds made up before the trial. They had their opinions formed without all the information. They jumped on a #notmycaptain bandwagon without any knowledge of why Rory Best was called to court. They drew their own conclusions from the snippets of information they got from the press. They heard that the lads were acquitted but refused to accept the juries decision...one idiot on twitter has tried to get the hash tag "retrial needed" trending. They couldn't take the juries decision so jumped on private whatsapp messages to form judgement. It wouldn't matter now if the complainant came out tomorrow and said she drank way too much and admitted she was consenting in all acts. The lads are guilty in their eyes and that's all that matters. The legal system is undermined by so many fools who seem to know more than any solicitor, barrister or judge. My brother in law is a solicitor and we were talking about the case on Sunday. My wife is adamant that they are guilty. Unfortunately for her, every argument she gave was swiftly countered by him (he doesn't even live in ireland any more and has next to zero knowledge of the case)....it's interesting to see how someone with a legal background can tear to shreds someone who has nothing more than an opinion on this.
Silentcorner wrote: » There were others who were much more inconsistent, dangerously inconsistent in fact.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Did it ever cross your mind that just because you refer to some people (sexually promiscuous ones) as sluts that it doesn't mean you refer to or think of ALL women like that? Just as you refer to different types of men.
mfceiling wrote: » Jesus you are easily offended if you thought a few posts of mine were "bad mannered" (I presume you reported them). Can't handle the heat from a few folk behind a keyboard....good one.
NAGDEFI wrote: » I don't like internationals referring to spit roasting or any women as sluts.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Why not? Perfectly descriptive slang word for a promiscuous woman. What should we call them?
mfceiling wrote: » And the solicitors, jury and judge easily saw through this and convicted all 4. No wait...
mfceiling wrote: » Sarcasm much? I'm sure even you have a friend/relation or colleague who is involved in law. Run your genius arguments about Jackson and Olding past him/her.....see how little you actually know about the laws and what can and can't be used in evidence in court.
NAGDEFI wrote: » You don't annoy me in the least but it's really easy to counter any argument you make.
NAGDEFI wrote: » I'd say your memory is so poor and you are so used to condescending that you actually can't remember your insult. Of course i put you in your box.
tretorn wrote: » Look, the lads were the ones who got caught, can you not grasp that they arent unique in the way they refer to women. I think women would object much more to a woman calling them sluts than they would if a man says it. I would think the three women who were in the company of the woman who alleged rape were less than impressed when they saw her text calling them slutty, the didnt know her from Adam and they testified they felt sorry for her being there as a billy no mate. She called them slutty and then headed up to bed with PJ, you would laugh except for what happened afterwards.
joe40 wrote: » Seriously, is that meant to be a serious post. I'm glad women don't all that cause I would have missed out on some great nights. I would say a lot of Irish marriages started with a night like that. Sex does not need to be assumed as a right in that situation by any half reasonable human being. The rape crisis centre should be some sort of moral guardian for young women? In a thread full of some idiotic posts that is up there with the best of them
NAGDEFI wrote: » Firstly i like you Francie. You're not a bol*ix:D I think it's context for me. Take slut on it's own, not too bad. Take all the terms, spit roasting, top shaggers, fcuking sluts and the overall impression is of lads who were very disrespectful, in my opinion. We all know the phrase crossing the line...it's imaginery, but i feel the men crossed it.
mfceiling wrote: » PM your address and I'll post your winners medal in the morning.
NAGDEFI wrote: » Well is it not time to stop this behaviour Tretorn? Someone always has to take the rap. Saying everyone speaks like that is the same as saying well i got caught speeding and was fined but everyone does it so it's grossly unfair. Everyone should have a fine in the post.
FrancieBrady wrote: » They were talking among themselves. Are you so seriously deluded to think that men and women are not similarly graphic when talking privately? As suspected you are another one way up on a high moral ridge just wanting a win here. And the human beings caught in the moralistic headlights don't matter one iota.
Mrsmum wrote: » Considering how getting really drunk and engaging in sexual activity with a stranger has impacted on the lives of these men, I'm wondering why no advice for men on how to stay safe. Drink, strangers, sex - recipe for trouble. The more you engage in this risky business the more possibilities for 'misunderstanding' or as you say yourself "something untoward happening" . I would put getting raped in the worst category but being called a rapist is a very close second. So thanks for all the advice to us females on how not to get raped but maybe you could give a think about your son's safety too and have a word with him as well as your daughter heading out the door. The girl isn't the only one whose life could change utterly in one night. Again as you said yourself Common Sense.
FrancieBrady wrote: » You get a fine for 'speeding'. These guys careers and livelihoods are on the line for a few rude words.
