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Who is paying for Lord Mayors trip?

Brendan Bendar

I find this very strange, what has this to do with the SF LM of Dublin?

http://www.thejournal.ie/israel-palestine-dublin-lord-mayor-jerusalem-3948763-Apr2018/

Who is going and who is paying.

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weldoninhio

ameirecan wrote: »

I wouldn't necessarily call him ugly, just "different".

Offensive to who? I doubt the Lord Mayor is reading the thread and even if he was I'm simply asking a question. Unless you're one of those perpetually outraged bores who take offense on behalf of others.

You obviously have some sort of neurological or a medical condition. If I got an answer we could move on but your reluctance to discuss it is making me more curious.

Bubbaclaus

ameirecan wrote: »

I wouldn't necessarily call him ugly, just "different".

Offensive to who? I doubt the Lord Mayor is reading the thread and even if he was I'm simply asking a question. Unless you're one of those perpetually outraged bores who take offense on behalf of others.

How far up the autism spectrum are you? The fact you didn't answer the other poster makes me curious.

TomSweeney

ameirecan wrote: »

Holy sh!t, I don't want to be mean but does that man have some sort of condition? He doesn't look right.

Yes he falls for the absolute lies and bull**** of Pallywood .

Hitman3000

ameirecan wrote:

Fair point. At least you can acknowledge that the Lord Mayor was born with something. You've just admitted that he's not normal, for lack of a better word. I'm just asking what his condition is. If you don't know the answer don't feel obliged to reply.

What don't you ask him what his condition is? I heard he's fairly approcheable. You might explain though what relevance his appearance has to his ability to do his job?

ameirecan

Hitman3000 wrote: »

What don't you ask him what his condition is? I heard he's fairly approcheable. You might explain though what relevance his appearance has to his ability to do his job?

He appears to be visiting Ramallah currently (but sleeping in a plush hotel in Tel Aviv naturally) but I'll be sure to ask him when/if he returns to Dublin. His appearance shouldn't affect his ability to do his job but he doesn't seem to care about doing his job of sorting out Dublin's problems anyway. More interested in grandstanding about Middle Eastern issues.

[Deleted User]

ameirecan wrote: »

He appears to be visiting Ramallah currently (but sleeping in a plush hotel in Tel Aviv naturally) but I'll be sure to ask him when/if he returns to Dublin. His appearance shouldn't affect his ability to do his job but he doesn't seem to care about doing his job of sorting out Dublin's problems anyway. More interested in grandstanding about Middle Eastern issues.

I have great sympathy for the Palestinians.

The world is running out of the 'correct' kind of conflicts so all the attention is now on Palestine for the moment.

There are injustices and conflicts all over the world but some get more attention than others.

givyjoe

mariaalice wrote: »

Discussing his appearance etc is highly inappropriate and a bit offensive.

Also beyond ignorant. "Looks like he has a mild form of down syndrome.." ffs:rolleyes:.

Hitman3000

ameirecan wrote:

He appears to be visiting Ramallah currently (but sleeping in a plush hotel in Tel Aviv naturally) but I'll be sure to ask him when/if he returns to Dublin. His appearance shouldn't affect his ability to do his job but he doesn't seem to care about doing his job of sorting out Dublin's problems anyway. More interested in grandstanding about Middle Eastern issues.

I don't agree with most of the policies of SF but any Western politician with any sort of profile needs to highlight the crap the Israelis are engaged in. As for his accommodation would you prefer if he was sleeping in a tent?
The LM has no power to sort out anything in Dublin, it holds no power other than profile.

Red_Wake

ameirecan wrote: »

Hitman3000 wrote: »

What don't you ask him what his condition is? I heard he's fairly approcheable. You might explain though what relevance his appearance has to his ability to do his job?

He appears to be visiting Ramallah currently (but sleeping in a plush hotel in Tel Aviv naturally) but I'll be sure to ask him when/if he returns to Dublin. His appearance shouldn't affect his ability to do his job but he doesn't seem to care about doing his job of sorting out Dublin's problems anyway. More interested in grandstanding about Middle Eastern issues.

Classic.

I was going to make a post about paying for the trip with the money they saved boycotting companies with links to Israel, but this outdoes anything I could come up with.

ohnonotgmail

facehugger99 wrote: »

It does appear that he may have a mild form of down syndrome from the photograph. Does anyone know the story with this? There's something off about going to Gaza, who are making these decisions for him?

seeing as i have known the man for all of his adult life i can assure that there is nobody making decisions for him. He has no mental deficiencies. I dont agree with his politics but just judging on the way that people post here i can be pretty certain he is more intelligent than most here.

woejus

ameirecan wrote: »

Holy sh!t, I don't want to be mean but does that man have some sort of condition? He doesn't look right.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signs_and_symptoms_of_Graves%27_disease

Graves' disease maybe? Symptoms include :

Graves' ophthalmopathy (protrusion of one or both eyes)
A distinctly excessive reaction to all sorts of stimuli.

Second one makes me think a lot of posters on boards have Graves' disease

[Deleted User]

This thread has been wonderful so far, asking all the real questions. Subscribed.

Mr. CooL ICE

ameirecan wrote: »

If I got an answer we could move on...

Mod: Everyone else can move on, but you can't. Either shut up about the guy's face or don't post in this thread again

evolving_doors

mariaalice wrote: »

Discussing his appearance etc is highly inappropriate and a bit offensive.

Too true. It goes to show how week someone's argument is when they have to resort to name calling to advance their point!

wally79

ameirecan wrote: »

That may be so but (1) I'm not a public figure and (2) there is a difference between being ugly and having a medical condition. The Lord Mayor of Dublin seems to fall into the latter category. If readers think I'm poking fun at him they're wrong. I'm just curious as to what condition he has. It almost appears like a mild form of Down's Syndrome.

So you need to be attractive to be a public figure?

[Deleted User]

It is because the vast majority are interested in trivia like that, not actual politics much to the chagrin of the politics nerds.

There is a brilliant scene in a documentary about the miner's strike in the UK, anyway, the guy is explaining his involvement in the protests. He goes home to his parents who are watching the ice skating couple Torval and Dean on TV and that is all they want to talk about.

Grayson

I thought I'd skip from page 1 to page 4 to see if the conversation had moved on from his face. Nope.

I read a different article yesterday that said the israelis tried to ban him but misspelled his name. And that the banning was because he was in favor of a boycott. It never mentioned if the boycott was the BDS boycott. Anyone know?

And now I'm going to go and read pages 2-3. they're al about his face aren't they?

Grayson

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

How far up the autism spectrum are you? The fact you didn't answer the other poster makes me curious.

That guy might be acting like an sshole but it doesn't mean you have to.
What you wrote is insulting to people with autism.

weldoninhio

Grayson wrote: »

I thought I'd skip from page 1 to page 4 to see if the conversation had moved on from his face. Nope.

I read a different article yesterday that said the israelis tried to ban him but misspelled his name. And that the banning was because he was in favor of a boycott. It never mentioned if the boycott was the BDS boycott. Anyone know?

And now I'm going to go and read pages 2-3. they're al about his face aren't they?

Yeah it was to do with his support for BDS. They've said that they'll be issuing him with a letter on his departure stating that he is banned from entering again.

[Deleted User]

So did we work out who is paying?

Hitman3000

Aegir wrote:

So did we work out who is paying?

According to the Indo he was invited to attend a conference by the PA, no mention of who is paying but it's rare that any politician puts their hand in their own pocket.

Auguste Comte

Could a mod please move this thread to the politics cafe, pleeease.

Stay classy american.

Hitman3000

Auguste Comte wrote:

Could a mod please move this thread to the politics cafe, pleeease.

That's one way to kill a thread.

Brendan Bendar

The Lord Mayor seems to have fastened onto a lot of ‘causes’ which have tenuous connections to Dublin.

Wasn’t he involved in a flag flying issue over Catalonia,where he seemed to be keen to fly the Catalan flag over Dublin.

Then we have this trip to Palestine, which no one seemed to have a handle on as to who foots the bill, what is the object of the trip,and what outcome is expected to result.

As the Lord Mayor of Dublin surely this lad can’t just head off wherever he likes?

As a private citizen, perhaps yes, but as the official capo di capi of the city of Dublin should we not be wary of the wishes of the population as to who he gives support to on ‘our behalf’?

These kind of ‘solo runs’ would concern me quite a bit as to how we are perceived abroad.

Atoms for Peace

mariaalice wrote: »

To sum up, SF feels an obligation/affinity to Palestine due to their freedom fighter background and perceived similarities between the situation of Palestine/Israel and NI/UK.

Sinn Fein has a history of getting involved in struggles provided they are the correct ones.

East Timor
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/exiled-east-timor-leader-for-sf-ardfheis-1.142149

anti-apartheid
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-14706470

Various places in South America.

Maybe he funded it himself with the help of Sinn Fein

SF should move on from the 1970's, the Arab socialist/nationalist PLO is dead replaced with rival Islamic sectarian organisations.

Donald Trump

Whois paying for Lord Mayors trip?

Are Nslookup contributing anything?

(Are yiz happy now computer nerds)

Hitman3000

Brendan Bendar wrote:

These kind of â€˜solo runsâ€™ would concern me quite a bit as to how we are perceived abroad.

Standing up against the killing of unarmed and a besieged people is unlikely to cause international outrage, or is whom is doing the standing up?

odyssey06

Flying to Israel... easier than fixing potholes.

Sadly the Israelis probably have more sense than to keep him there so we'll just have to welcome him back.

ohnonotgmail

odyssey06 wrote: »

Flying to Israel... easier than fixing potholes.

Sadly the Israelis probably have more sense than to keep him there so we'll just have to welcome him back.

the lord mayor has little or no control over the fixing of potholes. Or anything really.

Hitman3000

odyssey06 wrote:

Flying to Israel... easier than fixing potholes.

I thought it was general operatives in the council or contractors who repaired potholes?