notobtuse wrote: » It’s about equal justice under law. The law shouldn’t care what political party you belong to, but in Washington it apparently does, IMO.
Quin_Dub wrote: » notobtuse wrote: » This is just my opinion, but an opinion shared by a large majority here in the states. So Trump’s lawyer, Michael Cohen, had numerous locations raided because he presumably made some shady payment to a porn star, and because Trump received $150,000 from the Ukrainians for a speech. Okay. But didn’t Bill Clinton receive a $500,000 speaking fee from Russia? Didn’t the Clinton Foundation receive hundreds of millions in the lead-up to her campaign for president, and didn't those 'donations' all but dry up after she lost? Didn’t Hillary pay for specious opposition research that was used as evidence to wire-tap the Trump organization? Didn’t Hillary and her team smash phones and computers to bits after the evidence therein was subpoenaed? Didn’t Hillary and her lawyer Cheryl Mills claim attorney-client privilege when Mills herself was under investigation for obstruction? Why have we not seen any no-knock raids by the government against Hillary Clinton and her team? The thing is... anyone here, if they were truthful with themselves, knows no Democrat would ever be subjected to the type of investigative circus we are seeing involving Trump. Currently, justice is not blind... it is a joke. Many outside of the media here see that a dangerous political game is now being played... And revolt may be in the near future. Simple question.. Who's in power? If these things are totally specious , then who is controlling the agenda , the Dems who control nothing right now? The Republicans control all parts of government..Every one involved in the approval of the warrant for Cohen are Republicans and most are Trump appointees, so I'm not seeing the puppet master here. Or is the suggestion that only Democrats would stoop so low as to shaft a political opponent and that the reason that the Clinton family and extended others are "getting off scot free" is because Republicans are such pillars of truth, justice and the American way that they would never attempt something so base?
notobtuse wrote: » This is just my opinion, but an opinion shared by a large majority here in the states. So Trump’s lawyer, Michael Cohen, had numerous locations raided because he presumably made some shady payment to a porn star, and because Trump received $150,000 from the Ukrainians for a speech. Okay. But didn’t Bill Clinton receive a $500,000 speaking fee from Russia? Didn’t the Clinton Foundation receive hundreds of millions in the lead-up to her campaign for president, and didn't those 'donations' all but dry up after she lost? Didn’t Hillary pay for specious opposition research that was used as evidence to wire-tap the Trump organization? Didn’t Hillary and her team smash phones and computers to bits after the evidence therein was subpoenaed? Didn’t Hillary and her lawyer Cheryl Mills claim attorney-client privilege when Mills herself was under investigation for obstruction? Why have we not seen any no-knock raids by the government against Hillary Clinton and her team? The thing is... anyone here, if they were truthful with themselves, knows no Democrat would ever be subjected to the type of investigative circus we are seeing involving Trump. Currently, justice is not blind... it is a joke. Many outside of the media here see that a dangerous political game is now being played... And revolt may be in the near future.
notobtuse wrote: » IMO, right now I’d say the Never-Trump Wing of the Republican party is currently in power in Washington and are committed to cleanse America of the Trump stench.
notobtuse wrote: » If Trump is guilty of something, then so be it (although what it has to do with Russian collusion is beyond me). If others are guilty of the same or worse, the law shouldn’t be ignored simply because someone lost an election and is a member of a favored party. Knowing you can get away with illegalities only empowers others to do the same going forward, IMO. Or perhaps we should only recruit potential candidates for POTUS from monasteries and nunneries going forward.
strandroad wrote: » Is there any chance that the Stormy affair is purely coincidental, and the raids are about Russian money laundering through Trump property, a line allegedly present in the collusion investigation?
spacecoyote wrote: » Another one bites the dust. Homeland security chief now sackedhttps://www.google.ie/amp/s/mobile.nytimes.com/2018/04/10/us/politics/tom-bossert-trump-homeland-security.amp.html
Fifty-one-year-old New Yorker Michael Cohen has a law degree, but his past duties for Mr Trump were not typical attorney obligations. While he did provide counsel, he also was one of the Trump Organization's lead negotiators on foreign business dealings, the man who would send threatening legal letters to Trump critics and - at least in the Stormy Daniels episode - someone who would arrange to keep potentially embarrassing information about Mr Trump under wraps. "They say I'm Mr Trump's pitbull, that I'm his right-hand man," Mr Cohen said in 2011. "What I am is a loyal employee. I like the man a lot."
Quin_Dub wrote: » strandroad wrote: » Is there any chance that the Stormy affair is purely coincidental, and the raids are about Russian money laundering through Trump property, a line allegedly present in the collusion investigation? From what is being said , the warrant covered documents related to the Stormy Daniels issue , but anything else criminal they find on any other issue could very likely be used.
metaoblivia wrote: » By no means is your opinion shared by a large majority in the US.
notobtuse wrote: » I don't believe they can use things not related to the warrant in court. But that doesn't stop them from illegally leaking information to the press in order to do what they can to take Trump down. Sort of an insurance policy against Trump.
oscarBravo wrote: » America can't be cleansed of the Trump stench quickly enough, but I'm not seeing any particular enthusiasm from Ryan, McConnell et al to do so.
America can't be cleansed of the Trump stench quickly enough, but I'm not seeing any particular enthusiasm from Ryan, McConnell et al to do so.
notobtuse wrote: » I didn’t vote for Trump in the primary but am mighty happy about what he has done so far as POTUS.
notobtuse wrote: » Ryan will be leaving office soon. McConnell is no help to Trump. I didn’t vote for Trump in the primary but am mighty happy about what he has done so far as POTUS. In his actions as president he is probably the most conservative and most accomplished president in modern times with his time in office so far. Yeah sure, his bombastic temperament and tweets are cringe-worthy (and even wearing me out), but when it comes to effectiveness... actions speak louder than words. I would be happy with 7 more years of Trump at the helm.
Quin_Dub wrote: » notobtuse wrote: » If Trump is guilty of something, then so be it (although what it has to do with Russian collusion is beyond me). If others are guilty of the same or worse, the law shouldn’t be ignored simply because someone lost an election and is a member of a favored party. Knowing you can get away with illegalities only empowers others to do the same going forward, IMO. Or perhaps we should only recruit potential candidates for POTUS from monasteries and nunneries going forward. Favoured by whom? All the Republicans that set-up and are running the investigation ? , The GOP controlled Senate and House ? The whole "Deep State Cabal" thing falls flat when this simple question is asked.. If they are so all powerful and commanding and can conjure up all this allegedly false information and indictments , why did they wait until AFTER Trump got elected to do it? Why wasn't all this stuff the October surprise instead of the rehashed Clinton email thing? It simply does not pass any kind of sniff test.
Water John wrote: » Who is 'they', who want to take down Trump???
notobtuse wrote: » I think it is. By most average Republicans and Independents. Last week Rasmussen Reports had Trump at a 51% job favorable job approval rating amongst likely voters. I believe many people are starting to see all this as a witch hunt against a dully elected president. And they don't take kindly to it.
notobtuse wrote: » I don't believe they can use things not related to the warrant in court.
notobtuse wrote: » But that doesn't stop them from illegally leaking information to the press in order to do what they can to take Trump down. Sort of an insurance policy against Trump.
notobtuse wrote: IMO, Sessions should resign and Mueller be fired. The both are not doing what they were appointed to do.
notobtuse wrote: » It is obvious Democrats are favored by the Fourth Estate.
notobtuse wrote: » IMO, Sessions should resign and Mueller be fired. The both are not doing what they were appointed to do.
notobtuse wrote: » Why did they wait until after Trump got elected? Because nobody ever thought Trump would get elected to the presidency. I think the establishment Republicans had settled on keeping control of Congress with a Democrat president in office. That way they could maintain some level of balance in government. They did manage to keep Obama's wish to lurch the country to the far left in check and felt they could do the same with HRC, IMO, and Clinton would have just continued Obama's policies. Who knew Obama's efforts to move the country farther left then they felt comfortable with would put Trump in office.
notobtuse wrote: » IMO, Democrats, Progressives, the Media, the Deep State, and establishment Republicans.
metaoblivia wrote: » http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_apr10 He's currently at 51% disapproval and 48% approval according to your source. Either way, 51% is hardly a vast majority. Only 31% strongly approve while 42% strongly disapprove.
aloyisious wrote: » @notobtuse: It's two separate investigations now. One by Rob Mueller and Co into possible collusion by Don and/or his campaign with a foreign government and it's agents, the other by a separate legal [NYC] branch of the Federal Govt and FBI into whether a US citizen [Mr Cohen] used personally obtained bank funds for use outside the terms the bank may have agreed, as standard practice, for such a loan. Fraud is a term used to describe illegal use of funds obtained from a bank outside the terms standard for the loan. Mr Cohen is a lawyer. Edit: just seen this [IMO, right now I’d say the Never-Trump Wing of the Republican party is currently in power in Washington and are committed to cleanse America of the Trump stench. It’s a heck of a swamp. And unfortunately I fear they will succeed in miring Trump in so much legal minutiae that he won’t have time to enact his mandate.] from you above. That seem's to say that it's not Crooked Hillary Don should be popping off about, but Mitch & Co, in the way he's frustrated by his error in appointing Jeff as AG, it landing him [Don] in the **** by recusing himself instead of sacrificing himself on Don's altar.
Professor Moriarty wrote: » Rasmussen is an outlier and always has been. In the past two weeks, Gallup, Ipsos and Quinnipiac have him at around 40% approval.
