spurious wrote: You'd want to be some PR guru to dress the authors of those texts up in a way to make them palatable to most sponsors. This won't go away. If they play on, I'd say it will be abroad.
spurious wrote: » You'd want to be some PR guru to dress the authors of those texts up in a way to make them palatable to most sponsors. This won't go away. If they play on, I'd say it will be abroad.
Notorious wrote: » Don’t patronise me. I’m not referring to every case, just this one. That metaphor fits the bill here. A woman agreed to having sex with six men? The very fact that they use this as a defence is laughable.
tigger123 wrote: » There's no way a sponsor is gonna pay all that money to have it's name emblazoned across the chest of Paddy Jackson.
goz83 wrote: » A sponsor only cares about money, so if it’s profitable to sponsor Ulster with PJ on the team, they will do so.
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jm08 wrote: » Its not relevant in this instance what the complainant thought of the three girls behaviour ( "slutty") What is relevant is that the WhatApp group sent around a photo of Dara and her two friends referring to them as Belfast sluts. [/I]
salmocab wrote: » So just to be clear its okay for the complainant to call those girls slutty but the whatsapp group calling the same girls belfast sluts is wrong?
Muahahaha wrote: » Yeah I am finding it very difficult to see any avenue for Jackson & Olding to play for Ulster again. Jacksons apology yesterday spoke of his "family values". Interestingly Ulster Rugby have their values posted on their websitehttp://www.ulsterrugby.com/branch/values.php Immediately you could say (or more to the point sponsors will say) that Jackson & Olding have broken 3 of Ulster Rugbys values- excessive drinking, language and derogatory comments. And then you get to the sponsor page. One thing that struck me was how many of the sponsors are major companies, some national and others multi-national. There are many English Premier League teams who would love to have the sponsor line up that Ulster Rugby has. A quick run down- Kingspan Bank of Ireland British Telecom Go Power Subway Ernst & Young BMW Bavarian A&L Goodbody Dale Farm Moy Park Argento Heineken First Trust (AIB) River Rock Maxol Deloitte Dankse Bankhttp://www.ulsterrugby.com/corporate/sponsors-and-partners.php You look at those companies and 75% of them are multi-national companies with headquarters in countries other that Ireland/N.Ireland. So when Hans, the head of corporate comunications for Danske Bank in Copenhagen hears his brand is being negatively associated with rugby players who lost the run of themselves he is not going to care one bit about the trial verdict. Ulster Rugby themselves will be cogniscant of that and they wont even need a stern lecture from Hans to tell them, it is staring at them in flashing red lights.
FrancieBrady wrote: » When Paddy is popping them over in the ERC that can also be forgotten. Sponsors will also be well aware what state Ulster Rugby is in and will know it will only get more negative if they lose players of that calibre. It's a quandary and I think time will sort it out tbh. I would think there would be a huge roar of approval in Kingspan park when these lads take the field again.
jm08 wrote: » The complainant explained at the trial what she meant by 'being slutty' (sitting on the lads laps, etc). The WhatsApp group sent a photo (taken by PJ) around of the 3 girls captioned 'love Belfast sluts). We've no explaination as to why the lads thought these were 'Belfast Sluts' which is rather surprising bearing in mind that Dara at least said 'no thanks' to at least two of them. Using what the complainant called the girls isn't a great defence to justify what the WhatsApp group were calling Dara and her two friends.
goz83 wrote: » Were you a witness to the scenes of the woman having sex with six men? I think not...so your generalisation infers guilt when in fact you know nothing about the circumstances. The woman may well have consented to having sex with six men, or maybe it was five....or perhaps none. You don’t know....I don’t know. It certainly wouldn’t be the first time a woman, or man had multiple partners at one time.....so not exactly laughable as a defense.
salmocab wrote: » Well I must be missing something because your saying the complainant saw them sitting on lads laps and thought that was slutty but the lads cant have drawn the same conclusion seeing the same thing? also I didnt use what she said about the girls as any defence or justification for anything.
jm08 wrote: » The girls were sitting on the lads' laps allowing themselves to be photographed with the 'sluts' Does that make the lads 'sluts' as well? Or is it one rule for women and another for men?
FrancieBrady wrote: » If you had asked me before all this what the common meaning of 'sluts' was now, I would have said it was applied to girls who tease and play the game. It would not necessarily apply to a known history of promiscuous behaviour. A bit like calling someone a 'hoor's mother'. It is not really saying that they are a mother of a prostitute, it is now a general insult.
Muahahaha wrote: » Just to be clear on the "Love Belfast Sluts" thing. Jackson and Olding had no hand or part in it. The photo of Dara Florance and her two friends is of the three of them sitting on a sofa with Blaine McIllory (who studies in an US universty). The next day Blaine McIllroy sends a whatsapp message to a group of his university friends in America with the photo of the three girls on the sofa with him captioned "Love Belfast Sluts". So it is not correct to label Jackson & Olding on the Love Belfast Sluts thing, it is entirely Blaine McIllroys doing.
jm08 wrote: » So basically, you have a different understanding of what it means to the dictionary definition and most other people.
RuMan wrote: » Lol rugby like golf attracts wealthy fans. These companies are interested in these fans not the likes of Coppinger. Ulster rugby supporters club has not received one complaint from all its members looking for PJ and Stu 2 be sacked
jm08 wrote: » Well, have you every heard the phrase, lie with dogs you'll pick up fleas.
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