Fann Linn wrote: » And what if their contracts were renewed? Would it upset you?
Deleted User wrote: » FrancieBrady wrote: » These guys have all been dragged through the 'media' too and got a severe 'bashing'. But, apparently their careers are on the line too according to the mob. I didn't see any ads in the papers demanding FG get rid of Kenny. Drop a bit a sex into the equation and the Irish get as judgmental as the church ever was. I don't recall Enda being accused of rape? Nor of him having to apologise to his family for his behaviour on the night of the activities in question. They should have considered their futures before engaging in and bragging about such sordid acts.
FrancieBrady wrote: » These guys have all been dragged through the 'media' too and got a severe 'bashing'. But, apparently their careers are on the line too according to the mob. I didn't see any ads in the papers demanding FG get rid of Kenny. Drop a bit a sex into the equation and the Irish get as judgmental as the church ever was.
Notorious wrote: » The lack of compassion you show is alarming. I doubt you’d be so cold if your daughter was the victim. No smoke without fire.
Appledreams15 wrote: » I left Ireland this week, I work remotely, and I actually felt incredible relief, and freedom. Other countries have there own problems. But there is a very particular kind of hatred towards women, combined with alcoholism in Ireland. It is going to take generations to solve
goz83 wrote: » Notorious wrote: » The lack of compassion you show is alarming. I doubt you’d be so cold if your daughter was the victim. No smoke without fire. Ah the typical BS statement of no smoke without fire. By that logic, all allegations of every kind would result in an automatic guilty verdict. Well done champ.
Notorious wrote: » A woman agreed to having sex with six men? The very fact that they use this as a defence is laughable.
facehugger99 wrote: » You seem to have a bit of a hard-on for the Enda thing Francie - don't see what it has to do with the case under discussion in this thread myself - smells like deflection and whataboutery. I think it was about 16 or 17 years ago, so maybe find something a bit more relevant or recent to compare, or start a separate thread and see who's interested in discussing it.
facehugger99 wrote: » The worrying thing is that a lot of young men raised on a diet of constantly available hardcore pornography may think it's quite normal - I think this has played a large part in the case under discussion in this thread too.
RuMan wrote: » Think last night was enormously encouraging for Irish rugby. You add an international outhalf to that young team and it offers a lot to be hopeful about. Once Ulster bring back Jacko his selection for the national side will be a rugby matter. There is nobody close to him as an altetnative to Sexton Cant wait for the rugby football wc now
iamwhoiam wrote: » I have lived here a long time , retired now and raised a family . I have not come across hatred of my female gender by anyone in my life . Luckily I am surrounded by men who are plain ordinary men who most certainly do not hate women . I worked all my life too surrounded by men who treated women equally and with no hate Very sorry that you lived a different life but do not tar all the great men in my family and circle of friends with your biased brush . Because to do that is absolute rubbish and shows a real lack of insight into human beings in general
Fann Linn wrote: » Apples doesn't like men, or Ireland.
joe40 wrote: » As an irish man and father, that is a very offensive post. I have been very consistent on this thread in my views towards the horrible behaviour displayed by the rugby players (I accept they have now apologised) That sort of attitude just undermines people trying to find a reasoned and balanced position
Appledreams15 wrote: I left Ireland this week, I work remotely, and I actually felt incredible relief, and freedom. Other countries have there own problems. But there is a very particular kind of hatred towards women, combined with alcoholism in Ireland. It is going to take generations to solve
Roger Hassenforder wrote: » I wonder is the "hatred" she is experiencing, hostility/rejection on a personal level rather than gender specific. Theres been some expressions that wouldnt endear her to the rational menfolk of ireland; they're actually insulting and offensive. Add to that "remote working" ive a suspicion she isnt living in the real ireland. Ignorance permeates every post.
iamwhoiam wrote: » What a real shame ! Missing out on craic and laughs and some great support from men . Poor Apples .
Uncharted wrote: » Experiencing' hatred ' perhaps because it seems to flow blindly from every pore.......... karma and retribution at work perhaps.
jm08 wrote: » Times has changed. Your generation were thought to respect everyone and the importance of family values. The accessibility of porn has changed all of that and normalised what was promiscious behaviour back in your day for men and women. Its not going to end well.
Heres Johnny wrote: » To think about this logically (mad I know but stay with me for a moment) this was a case about particular individuals alleged to have perpetrated a crime on another individual. In this case the defendants happened to be male and the complainant was female. The males happened to include 2 famous sportsmen. Men commit crime on women. Men commit crime on men. Women commit crime on women. And women commit crime on men. Old people commit crime on young people and vice versa. Dubliners commit crime on country folk and vice versa. Northside dubs commit crime on Southside dubs and vice versa. When the hell did we start generalizing so much? Why are all men in the firing line? Why are there so many articles about team sports having a toxic culture? Why is rugby being singled out? Can the next case where a women assaults or murders a man be the male retribution? Can we have #ibelievehim all over the place? Can we generalise against all Women? And just not to be a hypocrite, I know it's not all women having a go at Men, but the number in the baying mob is quite large
