FrancieBrady wrote: » It doesn't matter Audrey, the mob has to have it's blood sacrifice.
tritium wrote: » Yeah the bbc is routinely leaked the names of all people questioned for crimes. You haven’t responded to my question on the men are scum protester btw
GreeBo wrote: » So the complainant is also being disgusting in that case?
Mrsmum wrote: » About time Paddy. I'm glad you're ashamed because you should be. But you've made a bit of a fool of all those saying you had nothing to be ashamed of. Maybe you can explain it to them. And also I'm so glad you understand the anger against you was, as you said yourself, 'justified' even if some other immature poor simpletons thought the problem was with the protesters instead of with you and your dreadful behaviour. Thanks for putting them straight Paddy. Be a good boy in future. It's easy, just have respect.
AudreyHepburn wrote: » He has nothing to be ashamed of. He did nothing wrong or criminal and as for the WhatsApp messages only one of them was his and in any case they were part of a private conversation and not something he needs to apologize for. If you think there is a single WhatsApp chat anywhere that doesn’t contain dodgy messages you’ve lived a very sheltered life.
FrancieBrady wrote: » All the men involved have now said it was 'not ok' to do it. Has the complainant yet apologised for calling the other girls there 'slutty'?
FrancieBrady wrote: » No idea what your point is there. A 'slut' means a promiscuous woman - who exist, just like promiscuous men exist, commonly known as 'horndogs'. It does not mean ' all women are promiscuous'.
Yeah_Right wrote: » What's the RFU got to do with it? Jackson isn't employed by them and he doesn't play in England. His employers are the IRFU. 2 different organisations. Though I shouldn't be surprised as a lot of the people protesting against the 4 innocent men don't even know what country the trial was in. I hope both he and Olding do get back on the field for Ulster and that Jackson (I don't think Olding will) gets back in the Irish team. It would be a great redemption story. Especially if they were to go on and play a vital role in winning trophies like a European Cup, a Grand Slam or even the World Cup. Could be made into a movie in a few years. #theysaidsorry #letthemplay
freshpopcorn wrote: » One thing I did notice was how sheltered some women were regarding the messages there sons/brothers/etc send to people.
One eyed Jack wrote: » You may be ok with living in a society like that, but part of living in reality means accepting the fact that other people in the same society you live in have higher standards and expectations of public figures. Ever since we've had the ability to record conversations, there has been the risk that those conversations will make it into the public domain. There are people in this thread speaking as though this is a relatively new phenomenon. It isn't, not by a long shot, and the release of those private conversations into the public domain has ended peoples careers. The men involved were found not guilty of the crimes they were charged with, but it doesn't follow that they are immune from criticism for the attitudes and behaviours that there is sufficient evidence to suggest they deserve the criticism they're getting. This idea of passing off their attitudes and behaviour as something that "most young men are like" or "most young men have conversations like that", that may well be their experience, but it isn't an experience that's shared by everyone, and I don't know that it actually is all that common in civilised society. Y'know how I can say I don't know? Because most young men don't actually behave like those men did, and so their private conversations don't become evidence against them in a trial where their private lives are investigated and laid bare to be judged in public.
super_furry wrote: » Looks like the rehabilitation attempts have begun in earnest, but I don’t think the public at large are going to buy it. Especially when he’s threatening to sue everyone who says they don’t believe him.
tritium wrote: » Suing someone who calls you a rapist seems like a sensible course of action. Would you be ok with it if it was aimed at you?
facehugger99 wrote: » What messages? They’re all in your head. Just because PJ and chums were caught sending deeply misogynistic text messages doesn’t mean we’re all up to it. I’ve been in plenty of Whatapp group chats with friends,and while there’d be loads of slagging going on, describing women in that way hasn’t ever gone on. I doubt we’re that unique either. This narrative of ‘everyone’s at it’, I don’t buy it.
Grayson wrote: » Even one of the rugby players admits the language is demeaning and wrong.https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/ashamed-paddy-jackson-apologises-for-degrading-messages-1.3452843 Seriously, stop trying to defend sexism. It's disgusting.
cloudatlas wrote: » I made a typo and you jump on it to detract from my comment. Hope they don't play again, trying to save their careers is the only reason they are putting out these mealy mouthed apologies.
zedhead wrote: » Genuine question. Do you think if she went on trial now for a false rape claim against them and was found not guilty, does that mean they raped her?
FrancieBrady wrote: » What is sexist about describing a woman who is, in somebody's opinion, sexually promiscuous as a slut? It is a slang term for somebody like that recognised by dictionaries as such. You may not like the term, that doesn't make it sexist. Referring to 'all women as sluts' would of course be sexist and warrants sanction.
tritium wrote: » I suspect Jackson has basically done a solid for the irfu here. Someone on that side is likely hoping the sponsors will accept it now since I can’t see Jackson, who seems understandably angry, moving much further on this. If the sponsors don’t come in line and insist on dropping them then a case to CAS would be a nightmare for the irfu Hope he continues with his action against that eejit Aodhan too
Grayson wrote: » I didn't bother replying to you because it's whatabouttery. It's got nothing to do with what I was actually talking about. However because you're pressing... Yep, it's wrong to say that all men are scum. Did anyone have a sign that said that? I didn't see it. If I did see it, or hear anyone saying that men, as in all males, are scum then i would have a problem with it and would call them out on it. If someone says some men are scum i would consider it perfectly accurate. "Some" men are scum. So, back to sexism. You agree with me that it's wrong then?
