RuMan wrote: » Ur the one ranting about "depravity" and sounding like a Priest from the 1950's! I'll be happy if our top 2 outhalfs are selected based on form on the rugby field rather then who sent the worst private messages. !
NAGDEFI wrote: » You haven't a clue RU.. It'll never be a question of the best 2 outhalves if Jackson is no. 2. There'll be marches outside the Aviva, sponsors will pull the plug. Money ffs. A huge majority don't want him near the Ulster or Irish team. He's dispensable. I'll tell you one thing a priest from the 1950s would buy and sell you, you haven't a clue about the bigger picture of team selection.
FrancieBrady wrote: » 'Boundaries of bantering' are set by those bantering. That is why you are blissfully unaware and think those around you are paragons of virtue. People since Socrates have been decrying the crassness of youth. That is what all involved in this sorry shambles are, young people who will turn out fine, just like the majority of us. I am in my mid 50's. Why that is important I know not.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Where is there any proof of this? The men were put through the wringer and they were innocent of the charges. I would say there is a good deal of sympathy for them atm.
facehugger99 wrote: » Sure, and some people can get very upset/hysterical after sex and it does mean they were raped. So what?.
NAGDEFI wrote: » If your in your mid 50s Francie, jaysus you're a lost cause:D I wouldn't agree with your opinion but that's ok, you were forthright and honest. I'm 42, don't want to sound boastful but trained lots of young men. I feel what i outline is the way to go. It's different times today. I don't want to vilify the chaps but you have to be careful. I don't want Paddy Jackson's career to end for Ireland, but it will. And if the lads are truly innocent it's a travesty.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Ever hear of a fella called Tiger Woods. I watched him all evening play averagely and have the entire focus on him. Sponsored up and the crowds loving him. Would Tiger's previous behaviour(which he was manifestly and unequivocally guilty of) fit in with your moral code? Yet.... * As regards my age, I have always tended to live and let live. I don't try and morally control people. Has worked for me so far. My advice to a 42 yr old. Chill out.
NAGDEFI wrote: » Your more worked up and upset than me. Will you need counselling when 'Jacko' never plays again for Ireland? Ryle Nugent 'and now coming on for the injured Sexton we have Paddy Jackson!! Listen to the noise in the stadium! Paddy hasn't played in 2 and a half years since he stared on the Tour to South Africa, which Ireland lost, South Africa were beaten subsequently in the autumn of 2016 by Italy'. Never fear Jacko's here!! Apparent from all the other little issues he's going to be very rusty. I think Carberry, Ross Byrne and even Ian Keatley are better bets for the no. 2 role to Sexton.
Yeah_Right wrote: » Ryle Nugent. I thought RTE lost the rights? Is he moving to TV3 or Sky? The Boks in SA is a different team to the Boks away. Also they've in a steady decline for the past couple of years losing players to the NH constantly. Byrne has a ways to go to get in the Irish squad. It'll probably take a few injuries. He's third choice at Leinster. Should move to another province. Keatley is just too up and down to be regular at test level. Once again, it'll probably take a few injuries. ****. Sorry. Forgot this wasn't the rugby forum.
jm08 wrote: » Tiger lost millions in sponsorship (and the only thing he was guilty of was cheating on his wife). He has also undergone counselling to help with his addiction and he really hasn't been the same player since. He is really just infamous now.
NAGDEFI wrote: » Ah Francie. You disappoint me.. Tiger was never accused of rape Very different sports. You don't have a team ethos to protect. #teamofus Francie rest assured i'm relaxed, i guarantee you'd enjoy a few pints with me.. You wouldn't end up in a threesome with me though Maybe you'd get lucky yourself! Love lads on the net given advice to lads they don't know. You can have great craic and respect all. 'Morally control people'. No! Try and prevent cases like the Belfast Rape Case and protect the young..Sometimes morality comes into that Francie.
RuMan wrote: » I know all about employment Law father
FrancieBrady wrote: » Was Tiger respecting women when he was getting his jollies? Where are all the defenders of womankind on the golf courses? Stopping banter isn't going to stop rape. Which this case was not.
NAGDEFI wrote: » This is a rape case though Francie. Do you understand? The stigma, even for the innocent is always there. Can you see Jackson play for Ireland?
FrancieBrady wrote: » You think Tiger isn't making a living from golf? These guys are only guilty of offending a few conservative holier than I moralisers. Or have I missed something?
In the days and months following Woods' admission of multiple infidelities, several companies re-evaluated their relationships with him. Accenture, AT&T, Gatorade and General Motors completely ended their sponsorship deals, while Gillette suspended advertising featuring Woods.[95][238][239] TAG Heuer dropped Woods from advertising in December 2009 and officially ended their deal when his contract expired in August 2011.[95][240] Golf Digest suspended Woods' monthly column beginning with the February 2010 issue.[241] In contrast, Nike continued to support Woods, as did Electronic Arts, which was working with Woods on the game Tiger Woods PGA Tour Online.[242] A December 2009 study estimated the shareholder loss caused by Woods' affairs to be between $5 billion and $12 billion.[243]
jm08 wrote: » Yea, I think you are missing something. Tiger is self employed, the lads are not and the people who employ them are heavily reliant on sponorship. These are the losses that Tiger suffered for his infidelities. Tiger checked into a clinic to cure his sex addition. Now, back in Belfast we know of PJ was in a threesome on the Monday night with Olding and on the Tuesday night with McIlroy. Then there is the incredible amounts of alcohol they were putting away. Not a great lifestyle for wood be role models.
NAGDEFI wrote: » Agreed. It was a bit of a jokey post. I couldn't think of any commentator off the top of my head who'd do justice to Jacko's entry.
RabbleRouser2k wrote: » Ryle Nugent has left RTE-he was always seen as 'the rugby guy'-who did everything to hold onto the tv rights...then lost them. After that, I think RTE were like 'whats the point of keeping this guy on?' So was quietly shoved. TV3 have the rights now-but I couldn't name a single presenter of sports on their channel.I think it would be very difficult for a sports commentator to comment on the games if PJ and Olding returned. International sports teams tend to be under stricter supervision when compared to, say, local clubs like GAA or whatever.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Why would it be difficult? Commentators commentate on games all the time where 'stars' have behaved badly. And that is all these guys have done.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Of course he lost money. He was GUILTY. The lads in Belfast are not guilty of rape. They are guilty of a bit of lewd banter.
NAGDEFI wrote: » Personal morals. A lot of the so called 'alternative' lifestyles you wouldn't see animals behave like that. A lot of it is depravity. F*cking eadgits thinking they're pornstars and probably not enjoying it as much as one on one sex.
NAGDEFI wrote: » F*cking eadgits thinking they're pornstars and probably not eeadgitnjoying it as much as one on one sex.
facehugger99 wrote: » Yeah, so much so that they tell their best friends, end up making a complaint to the police, then in a witness stand for 8 days getting aggressively questioned by barristers on the most intimate details of their lives in a public court setting. Sounds legit.
LLMMLL wrote: » And apparently the girl who disapproved of the other girls being "slutty" and is in photos getting ready to leave then not only takes part in a threesome but is the sole instigator of it.
