FrancieBrady wrote: » Again the sensationalist over reaction. The point is the behaviour outlined, combined, will dramatcally reduce your odds of a bad experience. I DID NOT SAY what you are implying.
optogirl wrote: » Stop telling women what they should or shouldn't wear and to expect rape as a result of a clothing choice. It's not on.
optogirl wrote: » Game Face MCGee wrote: » While you say its for everyone in reality its aimed a young men and boys(just look at the medias portrayal of this and the undertone of the concept. its clearly aimed at men and not the population as a whole) The second point on it is what will it achieve. men go through formal sex education right now, which teaches safe sex but if the STI stats and young pregnancy stats show that "formal" education isn't really doing much is it? so what will be so different about consent classes? other than satisfy a cohort of society who will believe that men are sexual deviant and closeted rapists that need to be controlled and educated. Who thinks men are closeted rapists? The women on here saying I'll wear what I like and go to any party I like or the men saying that's foolish? The men & boys we are referring to are our sons, nephews, brothers, husbands, cousins, friends etc - just as very few of them are deviants, very few people believe all men to be so. I think young boys & girls need better sex education - the focus at the moment is very much on STIs and not getting pregnant and one-off encounters. There is very little on the amount of fun you can have - in particular the amount of safe fun you can have. There is very little on what is good practice in a sexual relationship & what are good ways of communicating with each other. All of this can surely only help. All young people can be taught to have more confidence in these relationships & be more explicit about what is OK and what is not and how to approach those conversations with your partner.
Game Face MCGee wrote: » While you say its for everyone in reality its aimed a young men and boys(just look at the medias portrayal of this and the undertone of the concept. its clearly aimed at men and not the population as a whole) The second point on it is what will it achieve. men go through formal sex education right now, which teaches safe sex but if the STI stats and young pregnancy stats show that "formal" education isn't really doing much is it? so what will be so different about consent classes? other than satisfy a cohort of society who will believe that men are sexual deviant and closeted rapists that need to be controlled and educated.
Fann Linn wrote: » Its not like anything nasty has ever happened in Cologne or Stockholm. It's just Ireland with the rape culture. You should be grand.
optogirl wrote: » Who thinks men are closeted rapists? The women on here saying I'll wear what I like and go to any party I like or the men saying that's foolish? The men & boys we are referring to are our sons, nephews, brothers, husbands, cousins, friends etc - just as very few of them are deviants, very few people believe all men to be so. I think young boys & girls need better sex education - the focus at the moment is very much on STIs and not getting pregnant and one-off encounters. There is very little on the amount of fun you can have - in particular the amount of safe fun you can have. There is very little on what is good practice in a sexual relationship & what are good ways of communicating with each other. All of this can surely only help. All young people can be taught to have more confidence in these relationships & be more explicit about what is OK and what is not and how to approach those conversations with your partner.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Clothing designed to titilate and arouse coupled with excessive amounts of drink will send the wrong messages or result in the wrong messages being received. They are connected.
kylith wrote: » Well, if men can't have a few drinks without getting the wrong message maybe they're the ones who should cut down on the drinking.
optogirl wrote: » Why is it that every time a woman posts here you call them hysterical or sensationalist? I see absolutely no hysteria from anyone but I do see a lot of outdated rubbish with no grounding in fact.
Appledreams15 wrote: » So, would you like to be a woman in the world today?
Dravokivich wrote: » Stop telling men they don't understand consent.
AN APPLICATION by various media outlets to lift reporting restrictions on the Belfast rape trial will come before the trial judge next Monday. A preliminary application on the matter was made before the Lord Chief Justice of Northern Ireland, Sir Declan Morgan, this morning. Sir Morgan said the trial judge, Judge Patricia Smyth, was aware of the application and was available next week to consider it. The Lord Chief Justice said he was aware of the argument that “news was perishable” and it was on that basis that the application would be dealt with expeditiously. Last Wednesday, Irish and Ulster rugby stars Paddy Jackson (26) and Stuart Olding (25) were acquitted by a jury of eight men and three women of raping a then 19-year-old student at Jackson’s home in June 2016.
Appledreams15 wrote: » 20 drinks SO. Anyone see the new pic of PJ on the night, looking absolutely off his face
Game Face MCGee wrote: » if very few are deviants why tar then all with the brush and say they need formal education on the matter? contrary to popular belief, education beings at home. yes formal education sets you up for a career, expands your knowledge etc.. but can you tell me hand on heart that your moral compass, how you live you life and what respect you have for fellow humans was learnt in school and not at home. I know where I got those thing from anyway
FrancieBrady wrote: » Make sure and tell your attacker/equally drunk stranger that he/she is engaging in 'outraged rubbish' when you are alone and pissed in a strange house. Sure everything will be fine then.
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optogirl wrote: » Ok you're babbling now
Appledreams15 wrote: » I said to my male friend, as long as men think that they are worth more than women , sexual assault is going to happen. If they saw them as worth the same as themselves, they would never do it. That's what needs to change, the 'I am worth more than you' attitude. He said, 'But religion tells us that men are worth more than women". That is in particular, the first thing we need to change in Ireland. The Catholic Church nearly normalised abuse of women by men. Question it! Who were the Catholic Church - they were abusers.
psinno wrote: » People who see everything in terms of gender tend to see everything in terms of gender. This can lead to seeing everything in terms of gender.
