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* Motors chat - round 12 *

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This thread is for motoring topics which you feel are not worthy of starting a new thread for, banter from a meet or general motoring related chit chat.

Keep it clean, be nice and helpful.

Motors charter applies.

Round 11 is HERE

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morritty

OSI wrote: »

Yep, don't remember the last taxi I was in that didn't have at least one fault light lit up on the dash. Was in an auto Octavia taxi a few months ago and every time he stopped he had to keep shifting in and out of auto until it found a gear again :rolleyes:

Was in an Avensis taxi last week, car kept cutting out every time he came to a stop in neutral or even coasting in neutral, chap said it was doing this for a few days and really should get to a garage sometime over the next week. :rolleyes:

Blocked fuel filter or lines I guess?

Cantona's Collars

On Dispatches this coming Monday.
Britain's diesel scandal, according to the ad it seems to be focused on lorries which are getting around emissions regulations.

punisher5112

Biggest culprit is the 2009 to 2011 bracket avensis for smoke.

RandomAccess

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

On Dispatches this coming Monday.
Britain's diesel scandal, according to the ad it seems to be focused on lorries which are getting around emissions regulations.

Scania or Volvo were caught doing a VW back in the 90's.
However the Dispatches episode seems to point the spotlight at Haulage companies doing it to boost fuel economy regardless of emissions.

Just like every facet of society self regulation is no regulation.
The EU or somebody needs to step up to the plate on emissions and pollution from vehicles, it's ridiculous what's going on.

Any commercial vehicle and taxi is potentially suspect.

[Deleted User]

RandomAccess wrote: »

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Any commercial vehicle and taxi is potentially suspect.

No more so than a private car surely?
CVRT smoke test is the same as the NCT test iirc.

James Bond Junior

What you get jayo?

RandomAccess

Augeo wrote: »

RandomAccess wrote: »

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Any commercial vehicle and taxi is potentially suspect.

No more so than a private car surely?
CVRT smoke test is the same as the NCT test iirc.

Well vehicle owners operating for profit are going to be those most aware of fuel costs and likely to look for an advantage. Hardcore commuters would also fit the bill. Fleet car operators etc.

UK already tightened up it's emissions testing and will probably continue to do so. Not sure now will we follow UK or EU developments in this area.

Should apply across the board anyway commercial and private.

[Deleted User]

RandomAccess wrote: »

Well vehicle owners operating for profit are going to be those most aware of fuel costs and likely to look for an advantage. Hardcore commuters would also fit the bill. Fleet car operators etc.

UK already tightened up it's emissions testing and will probably continue to do so. Not sure now will we follow UK or EU developments in this area.

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What can they do that gives them a fuel cost advantage ?
It seems (and I might be wrong) that you alluding to something that would be detected in a more stringent emissions test?

jayo26

James Bond Junior wrote: »

What you get jayo?

Just heading to pick it up got a 131 520d mate like a big kid.

James Bond Junior

jayo26 wrote: »

Just heading to pick it up got a 131 520d mate like a big kid.

Fair play to you, enjoy it.

RandomAccess

Augeo wrote: »

RandomAccess wrote: »

Well vehicle owners operating for profit are going to be those most aware of fuel costs and likely to look for an advantage. Hardcore commuters would also fit the bill. Fleet car operators etc.

UK already tightened up it's emissions testing and will probably continue to do so. Not sure now will we follow UK or EU developments in this area.

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What can they do that gives them a fuel cost advantage ?
It seems (and I might be wrong) that you alluding to something that would be detected in a more stringent emissions test?

Mapping/modifying the engine/emissions control features in such a way that it gets better MPG at the expense of clean emissions.

That's what Volvo or Scania did, so I expect it's what will be discussed in the Dispatches episode.

There are research articles discussing emission control strategies and trade-off between best NOx emissions and best fuel economy.

Foxhole Norman

Have been having a weird issue with the 540 since getting off the ferry. The idle seems to have a mili-second stumble to it every 10-15 seconds and some hesitation on hard acceleration. No issues with regular driving and cruising. Getting a P0011 fault code for Timing Too Advanced on Bank 1, all sensors seem to be reading ok and all cylinders reporting no unrest under load. Looks like she's going back in Monday to see what's up, BMW V8's eh

Cantona's Collars

Here's a question,is there anyone here who would refuse to let their other halves drive their cars? I personally know 2 people who won't even let them move it off the driveway let alone out on the open road. My missus drives my car and I drive hers whenever it suits,I have no problem with her driving my car and she's the same about hers.

punisher5112

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

Here's a question,is there anyone here who would refuse to let their other halves drive their cars? I personally know 2 people who won't even let them move it off the driveway let alone out on the open road. My missus drives my car and I drive hers whenever it suits,I have no problem with her driving my car and she's the same about hers.

Mine won't drive mine as it's got too much power....

Now me thinks I can never have enough power....

GustavoFring

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

Here's a question,is there anyone here who would refuse to let their other halves drive their cars? I personally know 2 people who won't even let them move it off the driveway let alone out on the open road. My missus drives my car and I drive hers whenever it suits,I have no problem with her driving my car and she's the same about hers.

I have a problem with her driving mine. She's driven it twice I think and I've been there both times. My issue is that to her it's just a car. A ding/scratch/kerbed wheel is ok because it's a car. She doesn't try and avoid potholes and rides the clutch too. She doesn't get why I'm bothered by these things so it saves an argument for her to just take her own. We're both insured on each others cars and I drive hers quite a bit but she has tended to pick up more than her fair share of battle scars.

To be honest I don't like anyone else driving my car full stop.

Toyotafanboi

I'd say my missus is a better driver than me. She'd have a canary if she gets a stone chip or a car park ding. I pretty much don't care anymore.

punisher5112

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

I'd say my missus is a better driver than me. She'd have a canary if she gets a stone chip or a car park ding. I pretty much don't care anymore.

When any of that happens I want to do very bad things to the offender.....

punisher5112

OSI wrote: »

Pulled into the driveway earlier and started getting out of the car when some total weirdo in a white BMW stopped in front of the house, looked directly at me, revved the nuts off his engine and then drove off again. Are we dating now?

I would say they were so annoyed at the size of yours they will most likely be back.... That or they plan on taking you....

Dartz

Cycled to the Kebab shop. Thought it'd be handy since it was all downhill all the way. Didn't reckon on cycling back.

Gained a new appreciation for what the engine in the car does.

Moving 20 stone uphil is hard enough.

James Bond Junior

Wouldnt it be great if we could fuel our cars on kebabs? One bite for me, one for the tank. Bitta chilli sauce and you got flames from the exhaust, lovely jubbly!

cadaliac

Can anyone tell me if a dpf removal will affect the nct? ( 2.0 hdi Peugeot, 163)
Apologies if this has been discussed here at length before.
Looking to pull the trigger on a 508, swimmer, but rattled by a buddy who says all Volvo and Peugeot dpf’s Give trouble

bazz26

Not currently checked by the NCT but that will most likely change in the not too distant future given the bad press diesels are getting. And it's not just reserved for certain brands either, if your driving style or usage doesn't suit a modern diesel car then your bound to encounter the same DPF issues no matter which make of car you drive.

cadaliac

bazz26 wrote: »

Not currently checked by the NCT but that will most likely change in the not too distant future given the bad press diesels are getting. And it's not just reserved for certain brands either, if your driving style or usage doesn't suit a modern diesel car then your bound to encounter the same DPF issues no matter which make of car you drive.

Cool, yea, agreed on the driving style and mileage, just wasn’t sure if the test was an actual co2 test per car/engine or a straight smog/soot test

cadaliac

****ing nervous about pulling the trigger, don’t want big bills, currently driving a petrol Volvo S80 petrol
Edit: without issue for the last 4 yearrs

bazz26

Diesel cars don't undergo a co2 (carbon dioxide) emissions test in the NCT, diesels are tested for CO (carbon monoxide) afaik. In Britain I think they do a visual check of the DPF as part of the MOT at present. I'd say they are not too far off following that here in the NCT.

cadaliac

bazz26 wrote: »

Diesel cars don't undergo a co2 (carbon dioxide) emissions test in the NCT, diesels are tested for CO (carbon monoxide) afaik. In Britain I think they do a visual check of the DPF as part of the MOT at present. I'd say they are not too far off following that here in the NCT.

Good man bazz, just the information I was looking for ðŸ‘

cadaliac

Saw a lovely 508 for sale on dd and in the information about the car they said dpf removed, got me thinking. Upon further investigation I realised that they give trouble if not looked after, hence the question

Manic Moran

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

Here's a question,is there anyone here who would refuse to let their other halves drive their cars? I personally know 2 people who won't even let them move it off the driveway let alone out on the open road. My missus drives my car and I drive hers whenever it suits,I have no problem with her driving my car and she's the same about hers.

Not that I won't let her drive it, but it infuriates me that she feels the need to always have water bottles, napkins, and whatever else inside the car, and leaves them there whether she's in it or not. I keep my car sterile. There is nothing visible in any of the cupholders, pockets, etc.

fancy pigeon

Saw a 10 D Citroen Xsara pic-my-asso the other day, after looking it up I never realised they assembled them up to 2010 in the UK and are still assembled in Egypt (although I have yet to find prices for a new one)

Also thought no one would be dim enough to buy and import them in 2010

Cantona's Collars

Manic Moran wrote: »

Not that I won't let her drive it, but it infuriates me that she feels the need to always have water bottles, napkins, and whatever else inside the car, and leaves them there whether she's in it or not. I keep my car sterile. There is nothing visible in any of the cupholders, pockets, etc.

I hate that too,it could only be a quick spin to the shops or a school run yet some people feel the need to bring water bottles and stuff as if they were crossing the Sahara.
The funny thing about the lads I know that won't let their wives drive their cars both had tips themselves. One wrecked his wife's car as he drive hers rather than bring his own out in the snow.