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Aer Lingus Fleet/Routes Discussion

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The seat map for the B767-200 being leased by EI next year are available on the Aer Lingus website, the seating is 2,3,2 in economy (As was suspected) and 2,2,2 in business

There are 189 economy seats and 12 Business seats making a total of the reported 201 seats.

Anyone know whether the B767 will be repainted, partially or entirely, in the EI colours for the 6 months that its leased for?

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Tenger

TheDriver wrote: »

I would except last year I brought something to their attention in the nicest possible way as a point of feedback and the response was far from what was expected.

From my mates in EI it seems that over the last couple of years EI mgmt are only responding to their post flight "voice of guest" survey. Im told that they dont react to staff reports.
Some marketing graduate prob decided that "direct consumer engagement is a primary indicator of our KPI scores"

basill

Mgt only care about social media similar to most large companies these days. Can cause instantaneous damage to the brand for tech savvy people.

ozzy jr

How far in advance is the schedule for each plane planned? Obviously circumstances like technical issues can mess everything up, but let's just say everything goes to plan, is it days, weeks or even longer?

Phen2206

ozzy jr wrote: »

How far in advance is the schedule for each plane planned? Obviously circumstances like technical issues can mess everything up, but let's just say everything goes to plan, is it days, weeks or even longer?

For long haul probably 3-4 days. For short haul its 1-2 days. The aircraft type is set far more than advance than the actual airframe e.g. Rome FCO might be initially planned as an A320 but 2 weeks beforehand it might be changed to an A321 (or vice versa) if there is high demand. Similarly with the A330 fleet; the aircraft type is assigned first in accordance with demand on the route and then a couple of days before, the airframe itself is assigned.

On Europe especially, last minute aircraft changes are common - even just an hour or two beforehand. Lots of variables including tech issues on the day or delays mean that aircraft are swapped around constantly.

Bussywussy

Phen2206 wrote: »

ozzy jr wrote: »

How far in advance is the schedule for each plane planned? Obviously circumstances like technical issues can mess everything up, but let's just say everything goes to plan, is it days, weeks or even longer?

For long haul probably 3-4 days. For short haul its 1-2 days. The aircraft type is set far more than advance than the actual airframe e.g. Rome FCO might be initially planned as an A320 but 2 weeks beforehand it might be changed to an A321 (or vice versa) if there is high demand. Similarly with the A330 fleet; the aircraft type is assigned first in accordance with demand on the route and then a couple of days before, the airframe itself is assigned.

On Europe especially, last minute aircraft changes are common - even just an hour or two beforehand. Lots of variables including tech issues on the day or delays mean that aircraft are swapped around constantly.

It's actually planned months ahead....but yea there's lots of variables where changes occur..long haul doesn't change much only for requested downtime for maintenance slots

kub

Query please, I spotted EI DVK on FR24 taking off ex Cork at approx 7:30 this morning with the flight number 990.

It had no destination on FR24, but I did note that the scheduled EI710 ex Cork to Heathrow was cancelled.

I watched 990 and it went and landed in Heathrow then an hour later returned as EI711.

So my query is, was it down as a positioning flight due to a shortage of passengers or what?
Why could they have not just gone with the usual EI 710?
Is there a technical reason for this?

Tenger

Photos posted in Dub spotters group on FB show A7-ACH inside the hanger, fully painted in full EI livery. (An interesting combo)
I guess a roll out today and a transfer to EI control within the week (at that point reg will change to EI-GEY)

goingnowhere

kub wrote: »

Query please, I spotted EI DVK on FR24 taking off ex Cork at approx 7:30 this morning with the flight number 990.

It had no destination on FR24, but I did note that the scheduled EI710 ex Cork to Heathrow was cancelled.

I watched 990 and it went and landed in Heathrow then an hour later returned as EI711.

So my query is, was it down as a positioning flight due to a shortage of passengers or what?
Why could they have not just gone with the usual EI 710?
Is there a technical reason for this?

Cabin crew shortage? EI could position crew from DUB/SNN to LHR by other flights to operate

Bussywussy

It goes 1 row beyond door 2

Locker10a

Bussywussy wrote: »

It goes 1 row beyond door 2

I’m guessing you’re talking about business/premier

Bussywussy

Yes sorry,I quoted another post but didn't work...

Tenger

So 1 row pf QR Business class seats are behind the boarding door?
I’m sure that will be problematic for service.
I can see ppl trying to just sit into those on a low load flight.

Could be good to encourage pax to use the bid to upgrade option on the website though.

Bussywussy

Correct...there's plenty of space and it's extremely clean

California Dreamer

Tenger wrote: »

So 1 row pf QR Business class seats are behind the boarding door?
I’m sure that will be problematic for service.
I can see ppl trying to just sit into those on a low load flight.

Could be good to encourage pax to use the bid to upgrade option on the website though.

Never going to happen. QR staff are generally on the ball in the business cabin and will have names and details of all J class pax before doors are closed. You will have the CSM come and intro themselves and call you by your name. Plus it also has the curtain of mystery between that and economy. I don't know anyone else with that configuration of seat on a 78 but the couple of times that I was placed there I wouldn't be that happy about.

joeysoap

Can’t see it either, sort of 2nd class business class.

Tenger

California Dreamer wrote: »

Never going to happen. QR staff are generally on the ball in the business cabin and will have names and details of all J class pax before doors are closed. You will have the CSM come and intro themselves and call you by your name. Plus it also has the curtain of mystery between that and economy. I don't know anyone else with that configuration of seat on a 78 but the couple of times that I was placed there I wouldn't be that happy about.

I was referring to the ex-QR A330 that will be entering EI service. I don’t expect them to be lax either about ppl slipping into the ‘extra’ row of J class.
Remains to be seen if EI retain a curtain there. (Blocks visibility)

Locker10a

Tenger wrote: »

California Dreamer wrote: »

Never going to happen. QR staff are generally on the ball in the business cabin and will have names and details of all J class pax before doors are closed. You will have the CSM come and intro themselves and call you by your name. Plus it also has the curtain of mystery between that and economy. I don't know anyone else with that configuration of seat on a 78 but the couple of times that I was placed there I wouldn't be that happy about.

I was referring to the ex-QR A330 that will be entering EI service. I don’t expect them to be lax either about ppl slipping into the ‘extra’ row of J class.
Remains to be seen if EI retain a curtain there. (Blocks visibility)

If they don’t keep a curtain between Business and Econony then things at EI have gotten dramatically worse than I thought. I would be shocked if they don’t.

kona

If they have any sense , those seats will be taken out and a few rows of economy squeezed in.

alancostello

kona wrote: »

If they have any sense , those seats will be taken out and a few rows of economy squeezed in.

For the 6-9 months it'll be operating in this config I can't imagine them making any changes before they refit it to EI standard.

Jamie2k9

The aircraft will mostly fly one route, J will rarely be 100% full on most A332 routes operating so those seats after the second door will be empty more often than not.

spannerism

Hi folks,

I got a query about AL to YYZ and AL YZZ to DUB.

Flight numbers are:
EI 129 - AL site details this as 3T1 as the aircraft type - very confusing
EI 128 (19th May) - AL site details this as 3E1 as the aircraft type
EI 128 (4th June) - AL site details this as 3E4 as the aircraft type.

What planes are these? I think they are A330 but not 100% sure and the AL isn't great on details. If you could point me how to find out the info, it would be great.
We'll be travelling with a 10 month year old and are hoping to secure a bassinet but I believe this is aircraft dependent.

Thanks
spanner

JCX BXC

spannerism wrote: »

Hi folks,

I got a query about AL to YYZ and AL YZZ to DUB.

Flight numbers are:
EI 129 - AL site details this as 3T1 as the aircraft type - very confusing
EI 128 (19th May) - AL site details this as 3E1 as the aircraft type
EI 128 (4th June) - AL site details this as 3E4 as the aircraft type.

What planes are these? I think they are A330 but not 100% sure and the AL isn't great on details. If you could point me how to find out the info, it would be great.
We'll be travelling with a 10 month year old and are hoping to secure a bassinet but I believe this is aircraft dependent.

Thanks
spanner

Yes they are A330's. Toronto is entirely A330. Also, if in doubt, check the seat map.

goingnowhere

Its A330-300 most likely. There are small variations in the A330 fleet,

The latest 2 -300 have 4 fewer seats and EI-EWR has 4 fewer seats than the other -200, so EI has 4 different A330 configs but the average passenger will never notice the difference.

If you need a bassinet call EI direct to book and get it assigned as there are only 2 rows where it is possible. These seats are blocked on the system and must be manually assigned

Tenger

My advice would be call them, however this is not foolproof.
Get to airport early to select bassinet at checkin. Sometimes they are blocked off until day of departure. And if someine else has them the crew cant force those ppl to move.

HTCOne

So is that VIM A332 that arrived this week into DUB the rumoured 14th frame?

Tenger

HTCOne wrote: »

So is that VIM A332 that arrived this week into DUB the rumoured 14th frame?

Possibly. My mate on the ramp in EI said that it would be an ex-VIM A332. He doesn’t have a timeline on entry to service yet.

Bussywussy

Tenger wrote: »

HTCOne wrote: »

So is that VIM A332 that arrived this week into DUB the rumoured 14th frame?

Possibly. My mate on the ramp in EI said that it would be an ex-VIM A332. He doesn’t have a timeline on entry to service yet.

Think it'll become EI-GCZ or something close to that

Tenger

Bussywussy wrote: »

Think it'll become EI-GCZ or something close to that

EI-GAJ, GCF, GEY, GCZ

Shouldnt the 3rd one also be EI-GEx? I thought the Irish reg was sequential.

sherology

There's another 330-200 being added?

HTCOne

Tenger wrote: »

EI-GAJ, GCF, GEY, GCZ

Shouldnt the 3rd one also be EI-GEx? I thought the Irish reg was sequential.

I think it depends when the paperwork is initially submitted, ie notice is given that you want a particular airframe on the Irish register. My guess would be the paperwork for the VIM frame (I think it was in storage until fairly recently?) was submitted before the QR frame, or that the paperwork process was smoother for VIM given Ireland and Russia have a comprehensive agreement in place for regulations/oversight due the huge number of aircraft on the Irish register operating for Russian airlines.