Bob_Marley wrote: » So you think heavy drinking and being drunk on the pitch improves an athletes sporting performance ? lol this is getting better.
Silentcorner wrote: » Is it really that low? Couldn't be....
ShowMeTheCash wrote: » I have not called you a fool, I have said your are making yourself look foolish there is difference. Are conviction rates in Scotland more successful than the rest of the UK? Explain to me how adding a second non convict-able option is going to improve conviction rates? For me this is the absence of sound logic....
Bob_Marley wrote: » As soon as you provide a credible answer : Since when did binge drinking not effect a professional athletes ability ? - Why is ok for a professional athlete paid to represent Ireland to be binge drinking and getting into questionable drunken situations with drunk teenage girls and put their career at risk ?
Bob_Marley wrote: » You can attempt all the perceived personal insults you like, I still have yet to be given a credible reason why it's ok for a professional athlete representing Ireland to be binge drinking and getting into questionable drunken situations with drunk teenage girls ?
Silentcorner wrote: » I've already answered that....it is a deterrent...you might escape a conviction, but you may allow the jury state their belief that the victim was truthful... If you think the use of deterrents are devoid of logic please explain... I don't know what the rates in Scotland are...but I thought the Not Proven option had a logic to it...I stand by that... Who are you to decide what sound logic is?
Strazdas wrote: » That culture seems to be a uniquely British / Irish thing though. You rarely if ever hear of players on the Continent binge drinking, it simply doesn't happen.
hynesie08 wrote: » Ronnie o Sullivan was off his bracket on Coke and he was the best player in the world, hurricane Higgins was permanently drunk/hungover, Wade boggs once drank anywhere from 50-70 beers on a cross country flight and destroyed the Mariners. George best?
Bob_Marley wrote: » You're going to have to provide some proof of this new sports science claim, that binge drinking is good for an athlete and sports person and improves their performance. Beast and Higgins career and then lives were ruined by drink, not enhanced by it.
Motivator wrote: » You asked when binge drinking doesn’t affect performance, I gave you a classic and well documented example. Here are some more off the top of my head: Paul Gascoigne was an alcoholic and recognised as one of the best players in the world. Tony Adams was an alcoholic and was captain of Arsenal. Paul Merson was an alcoholic and was a brilliant footballer. Binge drinking was an acceptable part of the “best league in the world” in the 1990s and early 2000s. But don’t let facts bother you. Anyway, binge drinking played no part in this case. There as an incident after ONE night of drinking, not a week long session. Jackson and any other professional athlete can do what they want, when they want - as long as they do the business on the pitch. Not once has Paddy Jackson been painted as a guy who had issues with drink or drinking to excess. So your whole argument is complete piss.
Motivator wrote: » You asked when binge drinking doesn’t affect performance, I gave you a classic and well documented example. Here are some more off the top of my head: Paul Gascoigne was an alcoholic and recognised as one of the best players in the world. Tony Adams was an alcoholic and was captain of Arsenal. Paul Merson was an alcoholic and was a brilliant footballer. Binge drinking was an acceptable part of the “best league in the world” in the 1990s and early 2000s.
Motivator wrote: » You asked when binge drinking doesn’t affect performance, I gave you a classic and well documented example. Here are some more off the top of my head:Paul Gascoigne was an alcoholic and recognised as one of the best players in the world. Tony Adams was an alcoholic and was captain of Arsenal. Paul Merson was an alcoholic and was a brilliant footballer. Binge drinking was an acceptable part of the “best league in the world” in the 1990s and early 2000s. But don’t let facts bother you. .
Bob_Marley wrote: » Do the sports scientists know your scientific breakthrough that drinking enhances performance and has no negative effects on an athlete . .lol
The Talking Bread wrote: » In fairness you didn't pick the best examples there :D:D:D
hynesie08 wrote: » Bob_Marley wrote: » Do the sports scientists know your scientific breakthrough that drinking enhances performance and has no negative effects on an athlete . .lol When did you decide that being paid to play sports means you can't have any sort of social life? That would have more of an effect on people than the odd session.
The Talking Bread wrote: » https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVG_Vd9vaYY
Strazdas wrote: » Maybe the reason he was tipsy was because he wasn't used to alcohol? They certainly don't have a boozing culture in any of the big football countries.
hynesie08 wrote: » When did you decide that being paid to play sports means you can't have any sort of social life? That would have more of an effect on people than the odd session.
ShowMeTheCash wrote: » You posted a link for NI stats In 2016 NI - 396 reported 29 convictions that just 7% conviction rate. Scotland for the same year - 1879 reported 98 convictions that's just over 5% conviction rate... No NI has a better conviction rate than Scotland had for the same year but you want to adopt there system?https://www.rapecrisisscotland.org.uk/news/news/conviction-rate-for-rape-and-attempted-rape-falls-to-lowest-level-since-2008091/
Motivator wrote: » You asked when binge drinking doesn’t affect performance, I gave you a classic and well documented example. Here are some more off the top of my head: Paul Gascoigne was an alcoholic and recognised as one of the best players in the world. Tony Adams was an alcoholic and was captain of Arsenal. Paul Merson was an alcoholic and was a brilliant footballer.Binge drinking was an acceptable part of the “best league in the world” in the 1990s and early 2000s. But don’t let facts bother you. Anyway, binge drinking played no part in this case. There as an incident after ONE night of drinking, not a week long session. Jackson and any other professional athlete can do what they want, when they want - as long as they do the business on the pitch. Not once has Paddy Jackson been painted as a guy who had issues with drink or drinking to excess. So your whole argument is complete piss.
The Talking Bread wrote: » You are not in touch with reality if you think a lot of professional athletes, especially those ikn a team environment don't go out drinking, especially during their holidays or celebrating something (ie the Grand Slam team celebrated A LOT, as do our own soccer team). And Keane very much enjoyed a drink when it was acceptable to have one.
Bob_Marley wrote: » When did you decide the only way a professional sports person or anyone else can have any sort of social life is by getting drunk ?
hynesie08 wrote: » He never said they were good people, but they were great players.
FrancieBrady wrote: » That would just allow people to call defendants what they like. Which curiously seems what they want to do here.
hynesie08 wrote: » I didn't, but I don't hold sports people up as a pillar of society like you do. They're paid to play sports, their free time is just that, theirs.
