irishrebe wrote: » Oh, look, another one in the oppression olympics. Wouldn't you think that as a victim of harassment yourself, you'd have empathy for another victim? Would you have liked your 13-year-old daughter to have been beeped at and whistled at by grown men as she walked home from school? To have had comments like 'go on, deep throat it' and 'I bet you'd suck my c*ck like that' shouted as she ate an ice lolly? Seeing the men laughing and high fiving each other because it was all a joke to them, while her heart was pounding with fear? You're basically saying I should just shut up and not recount this story because it wasn't that bad and I could have had false rumours spread about me by other kids my age?
ShowMeTheCash wrote: » irishrebe wrote: » Maybe they did? How do you know how long it was up for? Maybe seems to get used when it suits you!
irishrebe wrote: » Maybe they did? How do you know how long it was up for?
suicide_circus wrote: » What are the demands of the people on these marches? I have literally no idea
Appledreams15 wrote: » One day men will look back and be shamed of how they treated women at this time. Just the same as how we look back at how we locked women up in magdelene laundries after they were raped, and we are shamed at that. The women protesting are not protesting just at this case but at all the wider issues of misogynistic culture in Ireland.
Worried Father wrote: » Imagine a man going around with a banner saying 'women are thrash'? He'd be arrested and the media would be all over it that. That's the real double standard.
cloudatlas wrote: » Double speak? Where did I use obscure language that you couldn't understand? No, you responded to my post quoting it with something unrelated to it and I rightly called you out on it. Only one confused here is yourself.
NewbridgeIR wrote: » John Connors and everybody who liked / re-tweeted it. Also see plenty on my FB feed mentioning class privilege.
Mrs Shuttleworth wrote: » Well I became asexual over a period of time. It happened gradually as the years went by, when interacting with men simply wasn't bringing any happiness. I don't hate men - I just view them as irrelevant. I'm not drawn to anyone any more, and this case reminded me why.
GreeBo wrote: » Perhaps as an asexual you aren't best placed to judge others sexual activities?
_Dara_ wrote: » An Instagram screengrab from today’s protest. I’ve chopped the Instagram user’s name out as I don’t him/her to be ambushed. But seriously, a banner saying ‘Men R Trash’? That is needlessly divisive and antagonistic.
The Talking Bread wrote: » irishrebe wrote: » Oh, look, another one in the oppression olympics. Wouldn't you think that as a victim of harassment yourself, you'd have empathy for another victim? Would you have liked your 13-year-old daughter to have been beeped at and whistled at by grown men as she walked home from school? To have had comments like 'go on, deep throat it' and 'I bet you'd suck my c*ck like that' shouted as she ate an ice lolly? Seeing the men laughing and high fiving each other because it was all a joke to them, while her heart was pounding with fear? You're basically saying I should just shut up and not recount this story because it wasn't that bad and I could have had false rumours spread about me by other kids my age? Weren't you 11 when it started? Surely you would have kept that age as the central part of your story? Are we really supposed to believe that every day men working together in a factory drove around beeping at a local child. Yup.
One day men will look back and be shamed of how they treated women at this time. Just the same as how we look back at how we locked women up in magdelene laundries after they were raped, and we are shamed at that. The women protesting are not protesting just at this case but at all the wider issues of misogynistic culture in Ireland.
irishrebe wrote: » One single banner with something moronic on it and look at the offence some people are taking.
The Rape of Lucretia wrote: » Not really. Its more a case of something just gathering momentum without any of the women really thinking about it. Literally a herd mentality. Group think. Caught up in a twitter/facebook sense of belonging, being part of something (- anything), a cause, whether just or not, whether rational or not. Its fun. Its exciting. It feels 'important'. So best not question too deeply, rather, just enjoy the ride (;)). Once up to speed, its very hard to stop a stampede. Even if it isnt really running a way from anything, and is heading for a cliff.
irishrebe wrote: » To have had comments like 'go on, deep throat it' and 'I bet you'd suck my c*ck like that' shouted as she ate an ice lolly? Seeing the men laughing and high fiving each other because it was all a joke to them, while her heart was pounding with fear?
Worried Father wrote: » irishrebe wrote: » No he wouldn't be arrested. There are pages of posts discussing the banner here, and lots of posts on social media. Where exactly is this double standard? The double standard is misogyny is the crime of the century but misandry is of no concern. Look at these clowns marching, they want men guilty until proven innocent. They surely have men they care about fathers, husbands, sons?
irishrebe wrote: » No he wouldn't be arrested. There are pages of posts discussing the banner here, and lots of posts on social media. Where exactly is this double standard?
irishrebe wrote: » What exactly do you want me to say? I already very clearly stated that the banner was moronic and unacceptable. I would hope someone told her to take it down. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't. One ridiculous banner, in an already small protest of fringe extremists the vast majority of women (and men) would not want to be associated with, and people are up in arms about it. Multiple reports on this thread of women being raped and harassed and they're either told that they're liars, or that it wasn't that bad and they should get over it. Truly incredible.
Ronaldinho wrote: » irishrebe wrote: » To have had comments like 'go on, deep throat it' and 'I bet you'd suck my c*ck like that' shouted as she ate an ice lolly? Seeing the men laughing and high fiving each other because it was all a joke to them, while her heart was pounding with fear? Did you tell your parents about this abuse you got?
irishrebe wrote: » Yes, 11 turning 12 when I started secondary school. As I said, a doctor was convicted of molesting hundreds of children and adults over a period of decades, putting his fingers inside them, sometimes with other people around, taking an enormous risk of losing his prestigious job, and yet you find it so hard to believe that factory workers in Dublin trying to play the hard lads, with no real repercussions for their actions, didn't beep and harass schoolgirls (and others) walking on the pavement that you assume I'm a liar? Wow.
ShowMeTheCash wrote: » irishrebe wrote: » What exactly do you want me to say? I already very clearly stated that the banner was moronic and unacceptable. I would hope someone told her to take it down. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't. One ridiculous banner, in an already small protest of fringe extremists the vast majority of women (and men) would not want to be associated with, and people are up in arms about it. Multiple reports on this thread of women being raped and harassed and they're either told that they're liars, or that it wasn't that bad and they should get over it. Truly incredible. Let's not muddy up the water here, you have been told your stories are unbelievable because when people read back on your posts the story seems to change not only on this thread but other threads. it is not my fault that people are now questioning your authenticity
irishrebe wrote: » Obviously. My dad had a word with one of the factory bosses. He said he'd tell the lads to cop on. Did they f*ck. Got even worse.
irishrebe wrote: » Adding more details to a story is 'changing the story'? I didn't think people were that thick that it would confuse them so much. Do tell me where I contradicted myself. I said I was harassed for years while walking home from school, and someone tries to tell me I'm lying because I mentioned being 11 and being 13 when it happened? Really? is that the level we're at?
Fann Linn wrote: » irishrebe wrote: » Yes, 11 turning 12 when I started secondary school. As I said, a doctor was convicted of molesting hundreds of children and adults over a period of decades, putting his fingers inside them, sometimes with other people around, taking an enormous risk of losing his prestigious job, and yet you find it so hard to believe that factory workers in Dublin trying to play the hard lads, with no real repercussions for their actions, didn't beep and harass schoolgirls (and others) walking on the pavement that you assume I'm a liar? Wow. So none of the teachers in your school, or none of the parents picking up the other kids did nothing when kids (and others) were walking and getting harrassed?
Tesla Coil wrote: » Now i know why the #ibelieveher and #repeal hashtags are being used hand in hand by some. They will abort if they are carrying males!!! I have finally cracked it!