dark crystal wrote: » Seriously, take a break from the internet for a while. I honestly don't know anyone in my social circle, workplace or family who holds these hateful views on men. Not one. If you know one or more who does, keep your distance and get on with your life. What's scary is this divide that's growing between the genders and it's going on on both sides. I've only ever encountered it on the internet which would make you wonder, who's driving it? The paranoia this gender war crap stirs up is what's grim; we're not all out to get you jailed and castrated and you're not all out to rape us and keep us downtrodden. open your eyes and take a look around the real world and don't get so carried away getting nosebleeds about some fictional dystopian future the internet loons have you believing in.
hill16bhoy wrote: » super_furry wrote: » Absolutely and you can see it in the language. SJW's, Feminazis, feminism is cancer, it's like they people using it all did some kind of red-pill, alt-right night course. It's very similar to the thinking among dominant ethnic groups when their hegemony is challenged. The same type of nonsense we got when Obama was president and that we so regularly hear from the DUP up north. Basically, the message to any groups who "get uppity" or "above their station" is to shut up and "know your place". A significant minority of men treat women's issues and issues around consent as basically a joke. An awful lot of them have seen this trial as simply another tool to goad women with in the manner that a 10 year old who supports Manchester United might goad a classmate who supports Liverpool after Manchester United win 2-1. Such posters rarely display any genuine belief in what they say - the primary aim is to annoy as many women or "cucks" as possible. It's really, really weird.
super_furry wrote: » Absolutely and you can see it in the language. SJW's, Feminazis, feminism is cancer, it's like they people using it all did some kind of red-pill, alt-right night course.
Church on Tuesday wrote: » Yeah, it's pretty vile. But lots of lads talk like this amongst their friends.
irishrebe wrote: » And all the while being in total denial of the fact they ARE the dominant group with more power.
Deleted User wrote: » I can't believe the stupidity and downright disregard for law of that Moderator-deleted post just now - I hope they'll be reported to PSNI.
Uncharted wrote: » Eh, when I said this thread..... I meant THIS thread. Not the actual real world . My point is exactly as you put it. You have made my point for me. The actual real world outside of the internet is nothing like what's been writen here. Men and women getting on with their own lives everyday of the week. It's the loony internet brigades version of the world that I was referring to in my post.... I apologise if my sarcasm was too vague.
FrancieBrady wrote: » There was bleeding, so they would have retained by the prosecution/police I would imagine. Part of the evidence, just like her jeans would have been.
Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: » Some extraordinary cross examination there. I’m no sjw but I fail to see the reason for the use of the underwear.
Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: » Odd then that the prosecution is passing them around. Was I missing something.
Christy42 wrote: » As a young man I am not scared of feminism. I really see nothing to fear. This is just over the top nonsense.
pjohnson wrote: » Plenty, argubaly most men are for repeal, despise rapists, want women to get equal opportunities be it job opportunities or pay etc. People men (AND women) have said the marches and hashtags and the likes are a crock of shíte. But then a certain type of feminist start rabbiting on about "red pill" and how men hate women (despite I guess women hating women if they agree???). No one with a quarter of a braincell should generalise people based on a cóck or vagína. Males can be stupid, females can be stupid. One stupid male does not represent all males one stupid woman does not represent all women. Certain people want to turn everything into a gender issue.
The Talking Bread wrote: » The idea of a trial is to persuade a jury. That is your job as representative for your client. I would have imagined a blood stained pair of underwear would have had some subtle, at the least, effect on some of the jury. It was heavily referenced in the evidence of her text messages so like all evidence if the prosecution feels it warrants using to "influence" the verdict in their "favour", naturally they would. It is hardly rocket science!
steddyeddy wrote: » Church on Tuesday wrote: » Yeah, it's pretty vile. But lots of lads talk like this amongst their friends. I grew up in a rough area of Dublin. So, no only scum talks about women like that among friends. It's disgusting.
irishrebe wrote: » It isn't class dependent either. I'm from Clondalkin and heard as much of that sh1te studying at Trinity than I did back on my estate. There are scum in all class and income brackets.
RuMan wrote: » irishrebe wrote: » And all the while being in total denial of the fact they ARE the dominant group with more power. Protestants?
Uncharted wrote: » irishrebe wrote: » It isn't class dependent either. I'm from Clondalkin and heard as much of that sh1te studying at Trinity than I did back on my estate. There are scum in all class and income brackets. Thinly veiled 'Trinners student' comment.....yawn
steddyeddy wrote: » I grew up in a rough area of Dublin. So, no only scum talks about women like that among friends. It's disgusting.
irishrebe wrote: » All the groups mentioned. Despite undoubtedly having had it better for years on end, they start crowing very loudly when it looks like other people might be getting some rights. There's that saying, when you're used to privilege, equality looks like oppression.
Uncharted wrote: » Thinly veiled 'Trinners student' comment.....yawn
pumpkin4life wrote: » I think one of the things that has happened is that these women have been put into these bullshìt leftist liberal arts courses (English in UCD) for example and are coming out of these courses wired to look for issues and victimization that isn't there. I posted about this before: that it's smart but not very smart people that tend to be the easiest to be radicalized (left or right), and people who end up in these courses tend to be that level of intelligence. There's other problems as well. The technology sector of Dublin (in particular the HR departments) are now getting populated with people like this, and that's going to hurt your company because there will be a mysterious spike in sexual assault, harassment and groping of wans. Also, avoid any man that calls himself a male feminist or brags on facebook about the rights of women. Everyone knows what that lad is and what he wants: King Schnake.
Atoms for Peace wrote: » I do have some sympathy for Steward Olding, after his statement, and the other lad charged with obstruction; but absolutely none for Paddy Jackson due to the aggressive statement given by his lawyer and now trying to sue for defamation.
steddyeddy wrote: » I reported it presumably along with a lot of other people. I also think that it's incredibly dangerous. More stupid is the fact that I nearly quoted it!
Atoms for Peace wrote: » I do have some sympathy for Steward Olding, after his statement, and the other lad charged with obstruction; but absolutely none for Paddy Jackson due to the aggressive statement given by his lawyer and now trying to sue for defamation. You would think he's had enough of court and keep his head down.
irishrebe wrote: » Only men who read the alt right, women hating, red pill sh1t use terms like 'feminazi', 'feminist cancer', 'penis haters', label men who attend feminist marches as just wanting to pick up women, etc. Normal, healthy men who respect women just do not use this type of language. I have no idea why forums like this attract so many of this type of men, but they do. Thank God, most of the men I know in real life would never use these terms or think in this way. They're completely supportive of improving women's rights in Ireland without starting with the 'what about the menz?' crap, as if it's all a big competition. The men I know are rightly appalled at the language used by those lads to talk about the woman they had sex with and by those who are calling for the women to be prosecuted for lying because the lads were not convicted. Just as those who attended the march and claimed that the lads who have been acquitted are not innocent are a significant minority, so are men with these toxic opinions a significant minority. The majority of people just want better rights and a better life for everyone. It would be easy to think otherwise when you look at the echo chamber that is Twitter and this site.
markodaly wrote: » irishrebe wrote: » All the groups mentioned. Despite undoubtedly having had it better for years on end, they start crowing very loudly when it looks like other people might be getting some rights. There's that saying, when you're used to privilege, equality looks like oppression. So, you are not interested in equality but with the acquirement of power? Now, what this has to do with the case itself is beyond me, especially when the plaintiff comes from a very well known and affluent family.
Atoms for Peace wrote: » I do have some sympathy for Steward Olding, after his statement...
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