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Belfast rape trial - all 4 found not guilty Mod Note post one

Sam Quentin

Strange.. I'm kinda relieved it's all over.

http://www.thejournal.ie/belfast-rape-trial-verdict-3928309-Mar2018/

Mod Note Keep this relevant to this thread and don't bring up others. ie the eighth amendment thread.

MOD NOTE By the way don't post anything from members on the jury that's appearing online.

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Mutant z

This is great news Aedhan O Riordain is getting his ass sued by Paddy Jackson it couldn't have happened to a nicer bloke.

razorblunt

GreeBo wrote: »

No, in NI rape requires a penis.

Ah I stand corrected.
Not like that!

Fann Linn

Appledreams15 wrote: »

Dara said about the moaning ' I dont know if I would describe it as sexual'.

Is that the same Dara who also reckoned your wan wasn't been raped?

Appledreams15

What did the tweet say? Or is it gone forever

freshpopcorn

Appledreams15 wrote: »

If she was open to things sexually, why did she tell her friends she was raped the next day. Go to the rape crisis centre.

How does that make any sense?

This country has a problem with rape.

Well for starters it happened in the UK so I take it your referring to the UK.

You said this in the post that I was replying to.

''Why was she crying and hysterical after it if she wanted it''

Just in my experiences I have met men and women who were upset after sex the next morning. It doesn't mean they were raped tough.

wexie

Appledreams15 wrote: »

What did the tweet say? Or is it gone forever

Even if it isn't I'd imagine it's not something that needs to be repeated on Boards what with impending litigation and such

C__MC

For Forks Sake wrote: »

And stupid and all as O'Riordans tweet was, it was nowhere near the most defamatory thing I've seen this week regarding the case.

No but should a person of his stature and responsibility be tweeting on this case- I wouldn’t say his tweet was nasty but it certinly foolish on his part considering the verdict. The last line I thought was quite low from o riordan in it, really low

super_furry

Appledreams15 wrote: »

What did the tweet say? Or is it gone forever

You'll find it easily enough on Twitter. It didn't say anything that thousands of other people had already said and there was actually a hell of a lot worse put out there by others.

At a guess, I'd imagine that Jackson's lawyers are going after O'Riordan because of his profile and to scare others into shutting up. Given the nature of the tweet and it's content, I don't think it would stand up in court at all for the Jackson side.

Appledreams15

freshpopcorn wrote: »

Well for starters it happened in the UK so I take it your referring to the UK.

You said this in the post is was replying to.

''Why was she crying and hysterical after it if she wanted it''

Just in my experiences I have met men and women who were upset after sex the next morning. It doesn't mean they were raped tough.

I have never been upset after sex the morning after. I certainly wouldnt put myself through 9 weeks of a trial after sex that I wanted.
Why do you think she was injured with the laceration?

Outlaw Pete

Lunacy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AO9C87mmYk

Stonedpilot

Do any of these "I believe her protestors have lives or jobs?".

ANOTHER protest on Saturday averaging 1 every day and a half now in last 3 days!.

That Cretin Ruth Coppinger speaking at it.

It wouldnt bother me only they have little to no knowledge of the case.

Just hearsay and a few glib crude sexual text messages is all.

markodaly

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

PJs lawyers have issued proceedings against labour senator Aodhan Riordan for a tweet he published and then deleted.

Delighted, some of these people need to be put back in their box

Hoboo

Heres a link to the Tweet. Im sure its ok to post a link?

<snip>

I'm afraid it's not, please don't post any more links to this tweet. Thanks.
The admin team

SleetAndSnow

Appledreams15 wrote: »

I have never been upset after sex the morning after. I certainly wouldnt put myself through 9 weeks of a trial after sex that I wanted.
Why do you tbink she was injured with the laceration?

Glad to know you haven't, but if you haven't noticed you aren't the entire population and everybody reacts to things differently.

Also, as has been mentioned quite a bit here, it seems to have been a fingernail causing the laceration.

super_furry

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Lunacy.

Indeed. And more than a little scumbaggy for someone to steal a water-marked video from the Irish Times and then try to relabel it as "Feminist Cancer Spreads to Dublin," for some weird women-hating little channel.

Appledreams15

Dodgy Steve wrote: »

Same story happens every saturday night in every town in this country.

Perhaps, girls shouldn't get wasted drunk and go home with random lads? Maybe have a bit of common sense?

So if she goes to a party with lads which everyone does as a teenager, she deserves to get raped?
Archaic arabic country alert alert!
My male friend just said to me, if he had a daughter he wouldnt let her out he would be so afraid. I have also said that i will not bring a daughter up in this country. I cry looking at all these comments, it so so hard to change male views in this country. They seem to enjoy being cold callous and hard.

wexie

Hoboo wrote: »

Heres a link to the Tweet. Im sure its ok to post a link?

<snip>

Certainly seems less vicious than many others, ill judged from a public representative but by no means the worst I'd have thought?

ChikiChiki

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Lunacy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AO9C87mmYk

Whackjobs. Peter Stringer spotted at 1.28 ;-)

super_furry

wexie wrote: »

Certainly seems less vicious than many others, ill judged from a public representative but by no means the worst I'd have thought?

Think it's just intimidation tactics from Jackson's legal team. Scare a Senator into staying silent and they'll be able to do the same with less high-profile people.

Mokuba

wexie wrote: »

Certainly seems less vicious than many others, ill judged from a public representative but by no means the worst I'd have thought?

Going to make an example out of him hopefully.

Although it'd be nice if they started to work through the cretins on twitter 1 by 1.

freshpopcorn

Appledreams15 wrote: »

I have never been upset after sex the morning after. I certainly wouldnt put myself through 9 weeks of a trial after sex that I wanted.
Why do you tbink she was injured with the laceration?

So what are you saying that every person who man that ends up in court accused of rape is guilty because you wouldn't put yourself through a court case if they weren't.
Just because you weren't upset after sex it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. It can happen for various reason other than rape.
I can't really answer you about the laceration but women getting lacerated in consensual sex isn't unheard of. It's not nice but it can happen.

Stheno

Appledreams15 wrote: »

So if she goes to a party with lads which everyone does as a teenager, she deserves to get raped?
Archaic arabic country alert alert!
My male friend just said to me, if he had a daughter he wouldnt let her out he would be so afraid. I have also said that i will not bring a daughter up in this country. I cry looking at all these comments, it so so hard to change male views in this country. They seem to enjoy being cold callous and hard.

Are you in Northern Ireland?

Hoboo

wexie wrote: »

Certainly seems less vicious than many others, ill judged from a public representative but by no means the worst I'd have thought?

No idea of law surrounding defamation. Its a bit rich coming from a smug well connected middle class boy though.

ChikiChiki

wexie wrote: »

Certainly seems less vicious than many others, ill judged from a public representative but by no means the worst I'd have thought?

I wonder was O'Riordans tweet responsible for the #ibelieveher hashtag that spread?

alroley

Dodgy Steve wrote: »

Same story happens every saturday night in every town in this country.

Perhaps, girls shouldn't get wasted drunk and go home with random lads? Maybe have a bit of common sense?

Perhaps lads should respect women and not leave a girl bleeding, cut, and crying in hysterics.

Appledreams15

Hoboo wrote: »

Heres a link to the Tweet. Im sure its ok to post a link?

<snip>

Thanks so much. How on earth is that tweet libellous?

Aren't people entitled to state their opinion on social media AFTER a case is over? Paddy Jackson is taking it too far

For Forks Sake

Mokuba wrote: »

Going to make an example out of him hopefully.

Although it'd be nice if they started to work through the cretins on twitter 1 by 1.

You'd need several lifetimes for that task

SleetAndSnow

Appledreams15 wrote: »

So if she goes to a party with lads which everyone does as a teenager, she deserves to get raped?
Archaic arabic country alert alert!
My male friend just said to me, if he had a daughter he wouldnt let her out he would be so afraid. I have also said that i will not bring a daughter up in this country. I cry looking at all these comments, it so so hard to change male views in this country. They seem to enjoy being cold callous and hard.

Why are you generalising all men as 'cold callous and hard', if thats what you think then you talk to the wrong people. Your just as bad, since apparently all men generalise women, yet here you are doing the exact same with the opposite sex. Good job on trying to push your anti-male agenda.

No country is safe for males and females alike, so there is no perfect paradise for anybody to raise their children.

super_furry

ChikiChiki wrote: »

I wonder was O'Riordans tweet responsible for the #ibelieveher hashtag that spread?

Not at all, that's been going around for months. There were people with in on a banner during Ireland Six Nations games.

Mokuba

Hoboo wrote: »

No idea of law surrounding defamation. Its a bit rich coming from a smug well connected middle class boy though.

Who are you referring to here? Paddy Jackson?

He is more than entitled as an innocent man, to get his life back on track.