Gawddawggonnit wrote: » Parafor from day 4 to 12 should sort it.
Timmaay wrote: » The March madness showing no sign of ending here, outbreak of crypto now, lost 4 the last 2 days and stomach tubing good few more. Fair hard to find any motivation for all this sh1t by now. Only saving grace has been calving slowed down, nothing born last few days, if I get afew more dry days I'll start calving them outside instead.
yosemitesam1 wrote: » It's an issue with high oils in the grass that causes almost all the reduction in bf. Feeding more fibre can't really do anything to help. Megafat is absorbed straight into the blood so bypasses any diet issues.
Timmaay wrote: » Let nearly every calf suck this yr, haven't brought the cow in for at least 24hrs after milking, and it's worked very well until now!, alot less work and good strong calves. But yeh fair point, almost definitely pushed my luck by now, the crap March has put serious pressure on sheds here, where I'd normally expect a decent number of the drys off straw and on cubicles the milkers have hogged all them the last 3wks. Young HE calves also have almost zero fight in them when they get any sort of scour also, definitely time to move back to an AA bull!
Timmaay wrote: » Young HE calves also have almost zero fight in theml!
jaymla627 wrote: » Are you snatch calving our letting calves suck cows, even calving outside won't break the cycle if calves are let suck the cow as your cows are probably covered in crypto oocysts, what electrolytes are you going in with
alps wrote: » Everyone boasts about the length of their thing.... Well it's the guys with the shortest thing....have the highest temperatures... Temp at full depth of the probe here is 6c and temp at 2 inches is at 10c Which one is more important for growth?
alps wrote: » Everyone boasts about the length of their thing.... Well it's the guys with the shortest thing....have the highest temperatures... Temp at full depth of the probe here is 6c and temp at 2 inches is at 10cWhich one is more important for growth?
GrasstoMilk wrote: » Anyone have recent soil temps ? Wondering is my thermometer broken, getting 9/10 degrees in a few different paddocks.
jaymla627 wrote: » Its needed, where extremely loose until nis was added, will be buffering them with 2kgs of nis for the entire lactation to see if I can sort out my bf issues, went in with a beet pulp/soya hull/flaked maize mix last year and was next to useless, with fats down at 3.4 at one point and not getting above 3.6 till near July Would be putting straw through diet feeder instead with a touch of molasses if feeding quality straw was even possible to source but it isn't
Gawddawggonnit wrote: » jaymla627 wrote: » Well north of 200 euro for flaked maize, brilliant feed though feeding flaked maize/cooked peas/soya bean meal plus nis and beet-pulp at 4 kgs through the silage and their motoring away along with 6 kgs nuts in the parlour Is there need for all that fibre? NIS is straw, isn’t it? Beet pulp is a good source of fibre. Are the dungs loose?
jaymla627 wrote: » Well north of 200 euro for flaked maize, brilliant feed though feeding flaked maize/cooked peas/soya bean meal plus nis and beet-pulp at 4 kgs through the silage and their motoring away along with 6 kgs nuts in the parlour
GrasstoMilk wrote: » Do the cows know that fodder is tight or something. 3rd and 4th calves for today are on the way. I'll be down to single figures in dry cows fairly quick with the way s few more are springing
Gawddawggonnit wrote: » Why not add silage to forage maize? If you’d good quality maize and grass silage balance their intake to 16%p and cut down on nuts. Works here...
alps wrote: » Luckily I guess, only small numbers left to valve, so can prepare and mind those. Ordered a high maize 16%mix at pretty good value to be fair, and going to go in the silage. Diet feeder here only used in emergency situations and is like something that has come back from a war...so it must go back to battle now again..
Mooooo wrote: » Yeah, after rain yday back in today and 2nite so will add silage back in, plenty maize tight on silage
Gawddawggonnit wrote: » Rolled maize is an excellent source of energy but be careful how you go. ‘Going hard’ is dangerous. Go easy and introduce slowly. Careful also with fresh calvers entering the herd as they won’t be up to speed with the maize meal. Toasted maize is much safer.
trixi2011 wrote: » Yip fresh enough calvers alright hard to get enough in to them alright there far from being hungry tho and holding condition. Well 3.4p and 5.1 f urea still in the mid 20s
alps wrote: » How much if this could you add to the diet? If toasted maize not available, would maize meal do? Would you be inclined to drop the parlour 6kg a little and go hard with the maize through the silage?
trixi2011 wrote: » You feeding maize straight ? Trying hard to get some distillers type product but hard to get with all going to the bio digesters these days .
Gawddawggonnit wrote: » trixi2011 wrote: » Hows everyone's milk production going this spring well behind here on litres and solids only have 5kg of grass in the diet rest a mix of maize and grass silage . Sitting at the same production for the past 3 weeks I remember asking an old lad many moons ago how does he stop his hounds from consistent barking? (He had quite a few)....I feed them, he said. Not being smart, but that’s poor return from fresh calved cows. Assuming their fresh, not stale. A balanced diet is what’s needed. Emphasis on ’balanced’ Trixi.
trixi2011 wrote: » Hows everyone's milk production going this spring well behind here on litres and solids only have 5kg of grass in the diet rest a mix of maize and grass silage . Sitting at the same production for the past 3 weeks
Mooooo wrote: » trixi2011 wrote: » Buying in all silage at this stage not sure of the protien , feeding 5kg of 16% meal will have some distillers or supergrains next week will bring up the protien in the diet a little only at 22l a cow been hovering around that for the last few week You'd want to be feeding 20% p nut, maize prob 9% p, silage could be anything from 9 to 15 depending on the load. Doing about 24 here with 23 % roll overs from last spring, 6 of 20% nut grass by day maize by night.
trixi2011 wrote: » Buying in all silage at this stage not sure of the protien , feeding 5kg of 16% meal will have some distillers or supergrains next week will bring up the protien in the diet a little only at 22l a cow been hovering around that for the last few week
