kylith wrote: » Irish women have to have babies they can’t care for, and be denied a say in their maternity care because people in Asia don’t want girls? What?
Graces7 wrote: » December2012 wrote: » Yes I agree that it is awful that there is a double standard for males and females, with women not having control over their own reproductive system and being forced into situations they don't want by men or society. Thats why I am pro choice. I was speaking re female babies being aborted or killed.They had no choice. Period. They did not choose death
December2012 wrote: » Yes I agree that it is awful that there is a double standard for males and females, with women not having control over their own reproductive system and being forced into situations they don't want by men or society. Thats why I am pro choice.
Graces7 wrote: » No not silly. Someone I know was made barren by an abortion is all. And bitterly regrets what she did.
robarmstrong wrote: » These women are being forced by society (your part of society) to continue with pregnancies. Oh there's another lovely bite - you believe women should give birth to babies conceived out of rape? Right so let me get this straight - woman A is forced to have intercourse against her will, and is then forced to keep that pregnancy? Sweet Mother of God you have probably one of the worst mindsets I've ever come across. It's disgusting. Why you're even allowed to post things like that here is beyond me but how and ever.Oh by the way since you're all about life is sacred and whatnot, could you actually give us your opinion on Tuam or are you going to avoid it again? I will in my sheriff's star read some drivel that the Catholic Church has put up in favor of pro-life, they lost any credibility to participate in this argument a long long time ago and you know full well why.
Graces7 wrote: » I was speaking re female babies being aborted or killed.They had no choice. Period. They did not choose death
Graces7 wrote: » I have never avoided Tuam and far from it. It is the most evil of all the evil abuses committed in Ireland. It has alienated me from the Church and from all the Church is involved in and yet I still know that the life of a child conceived through rape is as precious as any other child I knew this long before I knew the Church And yes, they have no real voice in this; just happens I believe every word of that article
Graces7 wrote: » robarmstrong wrote: » These women are being forced by society (your part of society) to continue with pregnancies. Oh there's another lovely bite - you believe women should give birth to babies conceived out of rape? Right so let me get this straight - woman A is forced to have intercourse against her will, and is then forced to keep that pregnancy? Sweet Mother of God you have probably one of the worst mindsets I've ever come across. It's disgusting. Why you're even allowed to post things like that here is beyond me but how and ever.Oh by the way since you're all about life is sacred and whatnot, could you actually give us your opinion on Tuam or are you going to avoid it again? I will in my sheriff's star read some drivel that the Catholic Church has put up in favor of pro-life, they lost any credibility to participate in this argument a long long time ago and you know full well why. I have never avoided Tuam and far from it. It is the most evil of all the evil abuses committed in Ireland. It has alienated me from the Church and from all the Church is involved in and yet I still know that the life of a child conceived through rape is as precious as any other child I knew this long before I knew the Church And yes, they have no real voice in this; just happens I believe every word of that article
ForestFire wrote: » Why is tuam continuously brought up. Two wrongs don't make a right, and they are completely seperate issues. Also you can have the same beliefs as the church without likening them or being apart of it, I hope? Like murder for example. These points are nothing to do with referendum and are only being used to try and discredit other posters views.
ForestFire wrote: » Why is tuam continuously brought up.Two wrongs don't make a right, and they are completely seperate issues. Also you can have the same beliefs as the church without likening them or being apart of it, I hope? Like murder for example. These points are nothing to do with referendum and are only being used to try and discredit other posters views.
applehunter wrote: » https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/repeal-campaigners-will-not-accept-a-no-vote-says-minister-1.3430112
ForestFire wrote: » Why is tuam continuously brought up.Two wrongs don't make a right, and they are completely seperate issues.
robarmstrong wrote: » If the staunch pro-lifers can accuse everyone of murdering babies they better have a good cop on at what went on in their back garden before opening their mouths.
_Dara_ wrote: » What are the "two wrongs" here? Tuam and...?
Call me Al wrote: » Nothing to do with the referendum.... a bit like pro-life commentary on cultural attitudes towards and treatment of girls in China and India then? Where's your indignation on that front?
Andrea Creamy Yard wrote: » Those same other posters, who by some twisted imagination, equate the referendum and abortion in Ireland with how Indians treat some of their children in order to distract and divert the discussion on what is happening here at home? Maybe if they left out the irrelevant and, I agree, completely separate issues then everybody else would and we could actually stick to the topic in hand.
ForestFire wrote: » For pro life people there is, but the point is that are not related, is that hard to understand?
_Dara_ wrote: » OK, so for many people, there aren't two wrongs in the equation. Glad we've cleared that up. Anything to say about the pointless stuff pro-lifers bring up here that has nothing to do with anything either? Why only hone in on pro-choicers?
ForestFire wrote: » I don't ask you to comment on every post. Why did you not do so? I'll comment on whatever posts I want thank you. Maybe Tuam has a special meaning to me? I should not be dictated how or where I express my opinion.
ForestFire wrote: » I should not be dictated how or where I express my opinion.
RobertKK wrote: » The repeal side must be in trouble, Regina Doherty is already talking about a second referendum and has called voters who don’t vote for repeal as ignorant. She said she was originally pro-life out of ignorance. This is Regina Doherty’s backet of deplorables moment.
robarmstrong wrote: » Deplorable moments? One of your fellow supporters said that women who are raped should basically be forced to continue the pregnancy against their will. (sex against their will and keeping an unwanted pregnancy against their will) Can you comment on this? Or are you just gonna tuck and roll outta here and return with more sh!te?