robinph wrote: » The tshirts are awful alright. This was the design for last years Bristol 10km which had some freaky looking bear hurdling a bridge for unknown reasons:http://grimages.blob.core.windows.net/blobgrimages1/images/imagelibrary/newsfull/2017-07-31-gbrishalf_17tshirt.jpg Previous years they had just used exactly the same design for all the 10km's and halfs and just changed the city name on the front which was an equally rubbish bunch of tshirt designs.
robinph wrote: » He thinks anyone outside the top ten really shouldn't bother running. Delighted he's gone from the BBC commentary team now. No idea how he managed to build a mass participation race empire that actually prefers people wearing fancy dress than racing at the front.
joey1111 wrote: » well that t-shirt looks a lot better than the plain huge blob of print on the GIR ones. I think its the only t-shirt i ever got that i never wore.
joey1111 wrote: » Out of interest do you ever run this race yourself or are you too far outside Dublin to warrent travelling for a 10k?
Testosterscone wrote: kinda of ironic when what was once regarded as one of the best road races in Europe went by the wayside only last year.
Cartman78 wrote: » I'm a reasonably average club runner so for the last few years, I've tended to stick to well-established races, that are organised by runners for runners. ...find all the online whinging about goodie bags and medals quite annoying tbh.
joey1111 wrote: » The only way I think I could compare it for you is if you were in a race and they hadnt got chipped timing. You'd be peeved. Most people who get annoyed about their medals are there for their little reward, since they've no concept of speed.
robinph wrote: » Wasn't this design by any chance?https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTAyNFg3Njg=/z/WWgAAOSwPedakZhk/$_86.JPG
Cartman78 wrote: » What? Dunno how you've derived what I might be peeved at or not (??) For what it's worth, chip timing isn't important to me at all. I've organised and taken part in races without it and sure it takes a bit of work but not a deal-breaker on any level. And, AFAIK, none of the club races I referred to use chip timing.
Cartman78 wrote: » Without wishing to drag the discussion off-topic too much..I think there seems to be something of a mis-conception out there about the mindset of a club runner (not just in this thread....have noticed on other threads/forums as well). So anyway, to bring it back to race saturation - My concern would be that if a new runner's first exposure to a race is some half-arsed, unsafe and poorly organised event, then I would imagine that this would turn a lot of people away from the sport. I had the misfortune of doing such a race a few years ago (my own fault - didn't really investigate beforehand) - it was an out and back 8K, so there was chaos as people at the front ended up wading their way through the field on the way back, while also having to contend with traffic travelling in both directions. And to cap it off the course was about 400m short and no times were recorded or published....so basically this was just a poorly organised mass training run on open roads that you paid for to fund a new shower in the GAA club's changing rooms or something. The event hasn't been held since I think so I would hope that a lot of these types of races are 'one and done' efforts, and people literally vote with their feet
joey1111 wrote: » Who are you to say theres a misconception about club runners, speak for yourself and the other bullies on Boards but not anyone else. Id be more concerned about running into some of the people off this thread to be honest, such a passive aggressive bunch who like each others comments and back each other up whether they're right or wrong. I've seen it done to others as well. Bit of a nasty carry on really. The word 'fun'runners definitely wouldnt come to mind about some on here. I'd rather meet competitive maniac, the constant attack on me during this thread just because you can? Would you go on like in real life with a group of friends (as an adult) towards someone on their own?
Testosterscone wrote: » If you see bullying report it. I don't think anyone was attacking you. I think those involved in the sport can have passionate views and differences of opinions can highlight that. The place is basically an extension of the traditional pub debates - rarely solves anything but people like to have there say. It is normal that people who invest a lot of time and effort into the sport will have some strong opinions on the state of it. You may not agree with them and they may not agree with you but that's the beauty of a discussion board you don't have to you can walk away from any discussion at any time.
joey1111 wrote: » just more back eachother up and liking comments, mild bullying. No mod would do anything. In fact Im probably in danger of a warning for not getting on with the 'gang'.
OOnegative wrote: » Yawn, put your toys back in your pram!!
Testosterscone wrote: » Are people not entitled to agree with someone just as much as they are disagree? You would go crazy trying to interpret the motives behind likes and comments. This is why all posts should be taken at face value. If someone likes posts continually without offering anything constructive to the topic, just ignore. No number of likes for or against you will make a blind bit of difference to anything, if your point is valid it's valid no matter who likes or doesn't like your post. We don't post to be liked (or maybe I am alone in this) we post to share information, bring awareness to what we believe are possible issues within our sport and help each other and hopefully the overall sport in general.
Murph_D wrote: » Only if someone reports you for breaching the charter. You seem to be spoiling for an argument, but as long as you keep it legal you’ll be grand. I won’t be joining in or taking the bait.
joey1111 wrote: » you just did. and are you 'telling' me im dying for an arguement. More like you're dying to see me argueing so you and the other self righteous lot can say I told you so. Its absolutely stressful dealing with you and the others. Thats enough of you for me.
Testosterscone wrote: » I would argue the opposite. Take your average local race Prize money down, Proliferation of the sub elite standard through overlap of races, Continually increasing costs eroding funds raised for clubs which is used to develop grass roots athletics (differentiating between this and participation athletics) despite the upturn in numbers. Road Running is being pushed into a middle class indulgence now due to medals, tshirts, chip timing, goody bags. Many of the established road races are probably making less off double the numbers than they used to years back. Think of the average club running college go-er, do they really have a couple of 100e a year to go on race entries alone especially now when you would be lucky to have top 3 get prize money which would not even cover travel and race entry The drive for participation is driving out many of the developing talent emerging.
Testosterscone wrote: » We don't post to be liked.......
28064212 wrote: » Relevant article: "Do we want fast times? Then let’s get back to basics…" https://www.fastrunning.com/opinion/comment/do-we-want-fast-times-then-lets-get-back-to-basics/14570
Nuttzz wrote: Not everyone is going to the the same level, football has divisions for that reason, if race organisers explained waves and expected times properly then those at the front would have less weaving to do (night run I'm look at you!)
