Strazdas wrote: » On bail? The Gardai and PSNI are refusing to even charge anyone caught by vigilante gangs in this fashion, there has never been such a case before the courts north or south and probably never will be.
tretorn wrote: » Yes, I agree he has aged so much since he was caught, I feel a teeny shred of sympathy for him.
Flippyfloppy wrote: » I wonder why some of the other people 'stung' by similar groups in the same way are let off, especially by Gardai
Flippyfloppy wrote: » Not only did he go to Leeds with two boxes of condoms in his bag to meet a 13 year old, he was found with loads of child abuse images on his pc, and had been blackmailing real children for naked pics.
Get Real wrote: » Refusing to charge? They don't even decide to charge in cases like this. It would be the DPP that directs a charge. I commend the UK courts system for the speed in dealing with this. Doubt it would have been so swift here. And the fact it may not even have made it to our courts due to issues the DPP may find around entrapment and the chain of evidence kept by these vigilantes. A good look at the legal system is warranted but this case only highlights an array of cases in Ireland where there is frustration over a direction of no charge, and countless technicalities that allow for appeals and money for legal aid and the system.
pistolpetes11 wrote: Brilliant how quickly the UK Courts dealt with this case , he would be still out on bail in Ireland
anna080 wrote: » Untrue. His mother is in a nursing home.
Omackeral wrote: » He's a dirty yoke and all but he didn't actually abuse anyone, thankfully.
Sofiztikated wrote: » You can't convict people on what they might do. You might pick up a shovel, and cave someone's skull in, but we don't imprison you for it.
Omackeral wrote: » Oh I know. What I meant was he didn't physically abuse anyone and that's a bloody good thing. We know he's a grubby, dangerous, predatory f*cker and I'm glad he got caught and nobody was hurt. He looks like he knows he's ruined his life too. Delighted for the fool and I've no sympathy for him. Wouldn't say let's hang him though, that's a step too far.
actaphobia wrote: » What disturbs me almost as much as his actions is the behavior of these vigilante groups who effectively stalk these predators. There is something disturbing, something that just doesn't sit right, with the almost gleeful satisfaction of seeing someone else's life ruined, albeit self-inflicted. I've seen some of the social media remarks and it is sickening. I also think it is a class issue - the vigilantes all seem similar in background; certainly they are not middle class
Nekarsulm wrote: » In our local newspaper this week (The Anglo Celt) there is a court report of a 32 year old charged with defilment of a 16 year old in a crypt in a graveyard. 18 months suspended.
weldoninhio wrote: » We have no way of knowing that. How do we know this was the first girl he ever went to meet up with??
weldoninhio wrote: » The b@stards!! Catching paedos before they can defile children. And working class b@stards at that. The police should be arresting them for going after middle class gentlemen like poor Kieran. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Hector Savage wrote: » Don't mistake criticism of the 'hunters' for defense of the groomer! No one is denying that this guy is a creep, but do you really think these hunters are out there to "protect the kiddies" ? They don't give a ****, they are just using this as an excuse to feel self righteous. I wonder do they give any money to rape crisis center ? or help victims of child sexual abuse ? - doubt it somehow. It's like prisoners in prisons have a code - even they hate the peadophile - fine upstanding moral men in there for murder beating up a peadophile - one form of scum attacking another form of scum. Have you seen the guy who does this ? - he looks like a right dodgy ****, id cross the street if I saw him.
HappyAsLarE wrote: » God that’s an awfully short sentence.
mad m wrote: » I think it’s very lenient of the judge/courts. Think he should of got more in my opinion.
screamer wrote: » Because prisons are busting at the seams. I'd love to farm some of the biggest scumbags out to the biggest **** hole prisons in the world. If they got out alive they'd never ever want to go back.
shamrock55 wrote: » Yes but if I was on my way to someone's house with said shovel with the intention to cave someone's head in and got stopped at the door by cops,the crime was going to happen alright it just got stopped
weldoninhio wrote: » If he wore a monocle, spoke with a D4/refined English accent and top hat would you find him more palatable?? I couldn't give a shiny shyte if they have a trademarked song and dance that they do every time they catch one of these scumbags. I don't give money to the RCC and i'm not qualified to help victims of CSA, do you and are you? Doesn't mean I wouldn't stop a rape if I saw one happening. Your line of reasoning is pathetic.
weldoninhio wrote: » So the police can't arrest someone on their way to murder someone, even if they have evidence that they are planning on doing it?? Shure, they might NOT do it so we won't arrest them. Catch a grip of yourself.
jimmycrackcorm wrote: » He was refused bail because he was not a UK citizen which might have required a difficult extradition process of he refused to travel back for court. We do similar for non Irish nationals charged here.
weldoninhio wrote: » If he wore a monocle, spoke with a D4/refined English accent and top hat would you find him more palatable??
end of the road wrote: » in short no . they will never have my support because it's clear they are not genuinely interested in protecting children. i have heard a few interviews with some of these people on radio over here and to me, they are unable to take any criticism, trot out the same robotic scripted responces and generally have no feeling or conviction when speaking. the police will always get the credit for solving these cases even if they didn't come across the evidence first, as the police are the only legitimate criminal hunters.
Strazdas wrote: » And they've taken to wearing black uniforms / jackets with the name of the vigilante group printed on them. It's so obvious they are trying to set themselves up as some sort of militia or alternative police force. It's no wonder the PSNI have taken to prosecuting the vigilantes and treating them as criminals. A gang of 8 or 10 people surrounding a person and preventing them from moving for an hour (whilst screaming abuse in their face and live streaming it on Facebook) is clearly a criminal act. Only the police force have the legal right to stop and detain people on the street, absolutely nobody else.
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