marsbar1 wrote: » Is is really that much trouble to travel to England, Wales or even Scotland?
pleas advice wrote: » the time limit of 12 weeks may not be changed any time soon, but the restrictions on what abortions are permissible after that point, and the conditions imposed both before and after the 12 week limit, may well change, in fact, if not necessarily in law.
Oldtree wrote: » Please. Its always better to link in a post straight away, I find.
splinter65 wrote: » I think that legislation will be introduced and very soon abortion will be widely available with no restrictions to around 20 weeks. It will start at 12 weeks and arguments will ensue and it will creep up steadily. Only time will tell what the long term consequences will be though.
david75 wrote: » Thats same poll said the vast majority of GPS support the referendum and want to be able to do their job and give best healthcare. I can give you the link and I’d hope you read it rather than the cherry picking from it that has been going on.
splinter65 wrote: » SSM was only ever going to make a difference to a minority group. This is going to be huge. I’m already hearing of people (on both sides) writing to their GP to demand to know his/her stance on the abortion pill. More people are demanding to know (on both sides) if the medical card will be covering abortions. It seems a poll of GPs has revealed that 2/3 will NOT be administering the abortion pill. The GPs are also saying that their conscience privilege also means that they can refuse to refer a woman to a GP who WILL administer the pill. That’s ever before the nurses get their say. That’s just the tiny tip of the iceberg Dav
Bannasidhe wrote: » You do know that the Liberal.ie is literally owned by Leo Sherlock, son of Cora Sherlock and one of a family of rabid pro-lifers? As a source it's up there with Breitbart. And your impression is wrong.
david75 wrote: » In the run up to marriage equality we had the same mouthpieces saying we’ll have gays marrying each other to adopt kids to abuse them and What’s to stop someone marrying their sister? Or their dog?? Where does it stop?!?! These were actual arguments put forth. It’s the same scare tactics and hysterical nonsense lost that campaign for those against it. We’re seeing the same here and again the same people making the same mistakes and undermining their own campaign with such nonsense. I’m glad Irish people are smarter than falling for this bull****. I’m sad that there’s an deranged element of Irish people that are trying to push it. Again.
splinter65 wrote: » I know a ****load of them were purchased but I definitley got the impression that senior repeal the 8th people didn’t like the whole “you’re a Nazi and a fascist if you don’t buy a jumper and wear it” atmosphere that hung around it and subtly distanced themselves from that scene. There was the unfortunate photo that went viral of girls posing lewdly in front of a statue in a rural church somewhere while modeling the jumpers that seemed to piss EVERYONE off, including repeal advocates. Here it ishttp://theliberal.ie/disgraceful-outrage-as-pro-choice-repeal-activists-purposely-disrespect-statue-of-our-lady-in-kildare-church/
pleas advice wrote: » if you don't want to leave litter on the beach, don't litter on the beach. but don't tell me what to do with my litter?
Ajsoprano wrote: » That doesn’t really make sense. Say if I read the paper and see a lad stole a car. Should I not have any feelings on the subject because I didn’t steal the car or I didn’t have my car stolen?
david75 wrote: » Don’t want an abortion? Don’t have one. Doesn’t mean you should make another woman’s choice for her. You’re not living her life. You don’t know her circumstances nor anything about her life. But please stop suggesting she’ll have one just cos a baby is inconvenient. You undermine your argument and disrespect any woman that makes that choice. Nobody makes the choice lightly.
WhiteRoses wrote: » As I said, I imagine it p*sses off people who don’t see value in me having an opinion and see abortion as murder. I still wear mine, I’ve seen plenty while out and about. The reaction I get from it is mostly positive, I’d get a few people genuinely asking questions and looking for information too. I’ve only had 3 negative reactions and all of those people shouted and roared at me that I’m a murderer. One actually accused me of the slaughter of innocent babies. They were all extremely rude, disrespectful and aggressive and all of these reactions came about as I was going about my business in the city center, it’s not like I was campaigning for repeal at the time or anything. Go figure.
splinter65 wrote: » Why do you think that your jumper pisses people off at all? When the jumpers were distributed at the start I got the impression that a lot of people who bought them put them away quickly because of this type of immediate responsehttps://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/57m6xz/why_arent_you_wearing_a_repeal_jumper_you_fascist/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=comment_list Do you still wear yours? I haven’t seen one in over a year.
Ajsoprano wrote: » I don’t think I’d have the heart to abort a baby. I have flip flopped on the issue over the years. Why not just give him/her up for adoption to give him/her a snowballs chance. It should be gay adoption we are pushing for. We could end institutional orphanages if there was gay couples who wanted kids getting kids. I think it’s a decision made under pressure that will be reflected on in hindsight for the rest of your life. There’s no real right or wrong in it. There’s a feminist side and a Jesus side and both sides have an agenda more important to them than the issue of abortion. They just want to win. I’d vote yes for health reasons but no for lifestyle reasons. Other cultures have abortion but in other cultures a girl can turn up at her boyfriends house with good news and it can be fairly normal for the boy to say “not my problem get an abortion”. How’s that for women’s rights.
WhiteRoses wrote: » When I’m out and about wearing my ‘Repeal the 8th’ jumper it’s people with opinions like yours that I hope to p*ss off.
Ajsoprano wrote: » Why do you want to piss people off? Surely you want women to get rights you think they should have? Or do you just want to piss people off?
Ismisejack wrote: » (Reply to nozz) We should allow a fetus the right to life, I can’t think of any other rights a fetus should have but enlighten me if you can. Killing a human outside the womb is illegal and killing a human inside the womb is the same , so why should killing a human inside the womb be permitted?
Ismisejack wrote: » We should allow a fetus the right to life Killing a human outside the womb is illegal killing a human inside the womb is the same why should killing a human inside the womb be permitted?
pleas advice wrote: » you're pretty much begging the question there, Nozz.... taxonomy is the answer to your question, plain and simple
