Flightradar24 Thread Part III

billie1b wrote: »

Flight plans are for DUB, correct, but they are diverting to SNN due to no capacity at DUB at the moment, place is bonkers! Might get one or two in but not all 3

All 3 went to DUB.

masit

JCX BXC wrote: »

All 3 went to DUB.

I see the new Ryanair, EI-GJD had a go-around.

Plus, 3 Emirates B777 in the sky, coming and going from DUB

billie1b

JCX BXC wrote: »

All 3 went to DUB.

Good! Don’t want them feckers down in SNN get all the goodies

Question, why is gate assignment such an utter mess in DUB. I was just listening to the ground frequencies there and there’s been several issue with flights landing and not having a gate. Now I can understand this happening from time to time, but why can certain flights only use certain gates (provided they are of course in the correct terminal)
E.g. EIN68R is currently stuck on a rwy 34 waiting for a fedex to clear it’s gate at T2, but I know for a fact there are other free gates in T2 available as I watched flights push back and vacate them, why can’t this flight use one of those free gates.

The Veteran

Locker10a wrote: »

Question, why is gate assignment such an utter mess in DUB. I was just listening to the ground frequencies there and there’s been several issue with flights landing and not having a gate. Now I can understand this happening from time to time, but why can certain flights only use certain gates (provided they are of course in the correct terminal)
E.g. EIN68R is currently stuck on a rwy 34 waiting for a fedex to clear it’s gate at T2, but I know for a fact there are other free gates in T2 available as I watched flights push back and vacate them, why can’t this flight use one of those free gates.

Stand as opposed to Gate allocation is a very complex thing; type of aircraft is a major driver; airline preferences; what other traffic is doing and whether stands are available for use at all. DUB aid currently short a couple of the 400s and 300s given the apron strengthening works that are underway. Wide bodies can only go to certain stands and some airlines want bridges specifically. Towing aircraft off stands is a major undertaking and if that is tried across a busy airfield it would be carnage.

Yes there’s an element of design restrictions at DUB that contributes to this but that’s the way it is. The airlines themselves “know the craic” and everyone has been genuinely trying to work together in recent days - competitive tensions are set aside but even still there are a huge amount of moving parts.

Add to this then (some complaining on other threads) baggage reclaim but again the baggage halls (behind what the passenger sees) have hills entering and leaving and will be very slippy at the moment.

We have spent a lot of money to ensure we have staff on duty but other “moving parts” have more staff than we do, operate to commercial tight margins and would be under pressure to have sufficient staff in. All the agencies and companies at the airport have staff running on empty at the moment based on extra hours over the last 4-5 days at this stage.

A very delayed LTN-NOC just on finals now, must be well past the airports usual operating hours, for winter anyway !

Locker10a wrote: »

A very delayed LTN-NOC just on finals now, must be well past the airports usual operating hours, for winter anyway !

Departed 11 hours and 57 minutes late from Luton. I don't think there'll be any trumpet upon landing on this flight.

The Veteran

Locker10a wrote: »

A very delayed LTN-NOC just on finals now, must be well past the airports usual operating hours, for winter anyway !

T2, in a Saturday night usually has 3 arrivals from the Canaries around now. Tonight T2 is working until approx 2 am. That of itself will cause its own problems.

T1 on a Saturday night is usually done by 00:30; tonight it’s working until 03:00.

Challenging times all round.

As regular posters know, I am connected to one of the services at the airport, but leaving that aside there are lots of staff working very hard putting in the hours to keep the place moving. There are a lot of people will be happy to see Monday so they can sleep.

marno21 wrote: »

Locker10a wrote: »

A very delayed LTN-NOC just on finals now, must be well past the airports usual operating hours, for winter anyway !

Departed 11 hours and 57 minutes late from Luton. I don't think there'll be any trumpet upon landing on this flight.

I feel a bit faint thinking about the poor return flight pax who I can only assume have spent the last 12+ hours in the departure lounge, those of you familiar with it will understand. It’s tiny and barely any daylight

Fred Swanson

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A rare visitor to Shannon on a Saturday night, DHL A300 BCS860

The Veteran

Fred Swanson wrote: »

Just think of all the lovely overtime.

If only!

EI876 ORK-ACE was diverted to FUE earlier and the return cancelled. Positioning back to Cork now as EI991

marno21 wrote: »

EI876 ORK-ACE was diverted to FUE earlier and the return cancelled. Positioning back to Cork now as EI991

Judging by social media, there's lots of angry passengers in Lanzarote lately, between poor WX in either the British isles or Lanzarote the disruption has been immense. In an Irish sense all flights were cancelled Thursday and Friday and many today. Last weekend saw very poor weather in Lanzarote too, causing massive issues.

It seems the reversal of the zonal winds has put the canaries into a very unusual southerly airflow, bringing alot of moisture to the desert islands. Lanzarote faces many issues when the use of RWY21 is active, as it has no ILS (low cloud base associated with rain stops all approaches) and a poor approach path (very bumpy due to terrain, last minute adjustments needed, when weather is bad a go around is very common).

Not a good time to be flying between Lanzarote and Ireland. Hopefully all is normal soon.

Lapmo_Dancer

Other way around. 03 has an ILS, 21 is non precision

Lapmo_Dancer wrote: »

Other way around. 03 has an ILS, 21 is non precision

Yup, mixed them up. Ironically I was talking about a southerly wind and using 03

Tenger

The Veteran wrote: »

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As regular posters know, I am connected to one of the services at the airport, but leaving that aside there are lots of staff working very hard putting in the hours to keep the place moving. There are a lot of people will be happy to see Monday so they can sleep.

I got to the chemist today to buy medicine for a sick family member, both staff there had to walk an hour to be able to open today.

This is a problem for the airport, getting staff to the locations they need to be at. I can reliably let you know that Aer Lingus had told their staff that they have hired in 4x4 vehicles to collect them if they are stuck. So the airline is certainly trying its best to get itself back to something resembling normality.

billie1b

Tenger wrote: »

I got to the chemist today to buy medicine for a sick family member, both staff there had to walk an hour to be able to open today.

This is a problem for the airport, getting staff to the locations they need to be at. I can reliably let you know that Aer Lingus had told their staff that they have hired in 4x4 vehicles to collect them if they are stuck. So the airline is certainly trying its best to get itself back to something resembling normality.

Same as Ryanair, they were using 4x4 to collect staff and get them into work and home, and if they couldn’t get them home they were being offered hotel rooms for the night.

Tenger

billie1b wrote: »

Same as Ryanair, they were using 4x4 to collect staff and get them into work and home, and if they couldn’t get them home they were being offered hotel rooms for the night.

Good to see as well. Airlines want to get back on track ASAP

JCX BXC wrote: »

Judging by social media, there's lots of angry passengers in Lanzarote lately, between poor WX in either the British isles or Lanzarote the disruption has been immense. In an Irish sense all flights were cancelled Thursday and Friday and many today. Last weekend saw very poor weather in Lanzarote too, causing massive issues.

It seems the reversal of the zonal winds has put the canaries into a very unusual southerly airflow, bringing alot of moisture to the desert islands. Lanzarote faces many issues when the use of RWY21 is active, as it has no ILS (low cloud base associated with rain stops all approaches) and a poor approach path (very bumpy due to terrain, last minute adjustments needed, when weather is bad a go around is very common).

Not a good time to be flying between Lanzarote and Ireland. Hopefully all is normal soon.

Michael Healy Rae has said on RedFM that Aer Lingus have chartered a 767 for a rescue flight tomorrow. Could be a rare opportunity to see a 767 in action in Cork.

marno21 wrote: »

Michael Healy Rae has said on RedFM that Aer Lingus have chartered a 767 for a rescue flight tomorrow. Could be a rare opportunity to see a 767 in action in Cork.

Yeah I heard that, apparently a Titan.

Hopefully they have stairs this time

Oops!

Did a Titan 767 fly down to Cork from Belfast a while ago? Can't remember who it was carrying.... Was it the Star Wars cast?

PukkaStukka

Ryanair 9452 took off from Dublin to Treviso and entered a hold for s few minutes just off the north county coast. It has just left the hold and is climbing outward so perhaps they were troubleshooting an issue which is now resolved

marno21 wrote: »

Michael Healy Rae has said on RedFM that Aer Lingus have chartered a 767 for a rescue flight tomorrow. Could be a rare opportunity to see a 767 in action in Cork.

EIN980P G-POWD currently waiting to takeoff at Stansted

Edit: due into Dublin at 5:45

marno21 wrote: »

marno21 wrote: »

Michael Healy Rae has said on RedFM that Aer Lingus have chartered a 767 for a rescue flight tomorrow. Could be a rare opportunity to see a 767 in action in Cork.

EIN980P G-POWD currently waiting to takeoff at Stansted

Edit: due into Dublin at 5:45

There are 3 Titan aircraft operating extra flight for EI today in an effort to clear the backlog of disrupted pax

EI2775 now en route ACE-DUB.

A lovely 3 hour bus journey for all the stranded Cork bound pax

marno21 wrote: »

EI2775 now en route ACE-DUB.

A lovely 3 hour bus journey for all the stranded Cork bound pax

Thought it was going to Cork?

Plenty of Stranded SNN pax too.