Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: » Generally Christians in this country are. Either way the point stands. The murdered guy might be going to hell because he didn’t live long enough to find Jesus or be born again while the murder did find Jesus and is therefore saved.
Stonedpilot wrote: » Im not. Most Christians would be VERY critical of the Catholic Church and the Pope. Its a Moot point. Live long enough you serious?. Whats to stop a murdered guy in his 30/40/50 whatever years of life repenting and accepting Christ as saviour?. How many thousands of hours he spent wasting time on this or TV?. Takes five minutes really to be honest. Not an arduous process at all.
Stonedpilot wrote: » As opposed to everything coming from nothing and from the nothingness all species were created, and man is a glorified monkey and the monkey started off as pond scum ad finitum. Ah Id rather know I was made in the image of God almighty rather than being some offspring of some pond gloop!. Also Christians DONT believe God is "in the sky". Bible is clear on this. If your gonna insult Christianity at least try and learn something on it. Otherwise your ignorance makes you look foolish.
dxhound2005 wrote: » I have an original copy of the Bible, signed by Jesus. Would that be worth anything?
Stonedpilot wrote: » Its a Moot point. Live long enough you serious?. Whats to stop a murdered guy in his 30/40/50 whatever years of life repenting and accepting Christ as saviour?. How many thousands of hours he spent wasting time on this or TV?. Takes five minutes really to be honest. Not an arduous process at all.
dresden8 wrote: » Do you mind if I get a buddy of mine down to look at it?
Stonedpilot wrote: » Nobody is beyond Christ's forgiveness the ONLY forgiveness that matters. Peoples doesnt mean anything not one jot in the long run. People dont like to hear this as well deep down they know their anger/grudges/righteousness doesnt mean jack shyt so why hang onto it?. Many murderers and such seek Christs sanctification in prison etc and the peace they feel is astonishing. Look at serial killer David Berkowitz. Hes a Born again Christian now. People might never forgive him. Christ has and thats what matters.
Schwanz wrote: » Christ has forgave eh? You know this do ya?? Please share how you do. A pedophile, can they be forgiven with your beliefs for instance?
markodaly wrote: » 'Hope he died roaring' is oft used when we hear someone we don't like after passing. It could be attributed to criminals or people who held positions of power in the past. Politicians are often targeted, religious clergy as well. The thing that gets me though is why people use such a term in the first place? If you are religious in anyway especially a Christian of any denomination, a central tenant of that is forgiveness. Why would you want someone to be in excruciating pain while on their deathbed. Even more bizarrely are those who are not religious in anyway. Normally these would be irreligious, probably progressive in their views, yet they hope someone who passed away is in agony when they die. Explain that one to me? Maybe these people or people in general are just pricks and disturbed deep down, and just label to justify their inner contradictions so they can rest easy. You can call yourself a Christian but do you have the capacity for forgiveness? You call yourself a non-religious progressive/liberal yet want someone to be in pain in their last moments? Anyone explain this to me?
kylith wrote: » Bit fckin' difficult when he's dead, innit? But yeah, by Christian teaching a person who loses faith in the Christian god because they prayed and prayed for their abuser to stop, to no avail, will go to hell when they die, while that very same rapist just has to repent on their death bed to get into the kingdom of heaven. God is good and merciful and just, y'all.
_Brian wrote: » You seem to have lived a sheltered life if you haven’t been crossed by people who you just can never forgive. I’ve a few people on the “hope he dies roaring” list and I’m still keeping my fingers crossed tight. And I’ll admit I was in the company of someone as they passed away struggling. They fought for every breath and fought and fought right to the very end. It was quite a sobering experience, I’d been with two relatives as they died before and both were extremely peaceful.
markodaly wrote: » Yes, it actually is. Humans are queer bunch. However I wanted to highlight the fact that individuals on one hand would be against things like torture, corporal punishment, capital punishment and so on. Yet on the other hand, they get self gratification at the thought of someone they dislike being in pain. I suppose we are very much Old Testament in our core. The New Testament was supposed to be about turning the other cheek, there is an attempt of progression there. Yet our modern world is secular and progressive, but we kid ourselves that we are actually that much more advanced than the people who were around in the Old Testament era.
markodaly wrote: » No, that is an ignorant philistine view on it but I think the message would be lost on you anyway.
