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Severe Weather Snow / Ice Weds 28 FEB ( Onwards ) READ MOD NOTE POST#1

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Time to start a new thread as the other one reaches its capacity!

I'm sure kermit.de.frog will add a forecast and keep it updated for us.

So to kick it off a few mouth watering charts of the snow and cold potential over the coming days, stay safe.

Looking very windy going into Thurs night and look at those windchill readings!

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gabeeg

The only thing I didn't enjoy about this event was that it was a bit of an ordeal to get out and enjoy it with that ceaseless biting wind.
The thaw has arrived here in Dublin 16, but it's generally a little cooler here than it is in the city, so I'm hoping it sticks around a little longer than expected for Dublin.

There's a sense of relief to having an event end in March. I'm not frantically looking through the models looking for a reload. I've had my dose and I don't expect or hope for anything more.

Now I think I'll wrap warm up and try to make it to the top of Three Rock. It's still -1c up there

Cheers folks

revelman

wakka12 wrote: »

Yeh Ive seen those stats but I thought there might have been a chart that showed more variation around the country!
For instance many places in meath got a lot lot more than that station did

I think it is impossible to find that to be honest. In the UK there are way more stations. We have very few in Ireland. You are right, the heavy snow was so localized that it would be interesting to have more recordings from more places.

cherryghost

Both DP and temp positive in Clondalkin. The light snow has given way to light sleet. Both are predicted to go under tonight. I wonder if parts of the country will be dusted again tonight (albeit very little)

gabeeg

Skedaddle wrote: »

It's easy to forget how bad Irish road infrastructure was in the 1980s. There were basically a hand full of short runs of basic dual carriageway near Dublin, Cork and Limerick and that was it. The rest of the country was on boreens.

Even the boreens these days are far better than they were then. Cars a generally much better and the emergency services would be far more resourced than they were back in the 80s.

Also in terms of heating, a lot more of the country's homes would be adequately heated and insulated these days (I know there are still always a few that aren't.) But, if you think back to the 1980s even urban areas had loads of homes dependent on coal fires, single glazed windows, no attic insulation and so on.
The situation in the UK wasn't all that much different either. There was a bizarre clinging on to open fires as major source of heat until well into the 1980s and even early 1990s in Ireland.

There was also no such thing as a mobile phone network until 1984 and it wasn't really operational as a major commercial service until well into the late 80s and even then it was insanely expensive. So most people didn't really have mobiles until the 1990s in any part of Europe that I'm aware of. They certainly didn't become main stream until the mid 1990s.

We are DEFINITELY better able to handle this kind of event now. Even if we're not geared up like a country that gets this regularly

We had a mobile phone network in 1984?
That's mad.

Many didn't even have a landline back then. It took up to a year to get one once an order was placed with Telecom Eireann.

Cork Boy 53

gabeeg wrote: »

I think it's hard to say. There was 3 days of streamer activity giving large localised accumulations, prior to Emma arriving.
Where do you measure for comparison?

Also we've far better infrastructure to deal with snow these days, and much superior forecasting.

I might be mistaken, but I have not read any mention of official ME snowfall depth records being broken anywhere, not even in the east, which is by far the worst affected area of the country.

grenouille1966

Clonsilla and Blanchardstown got 40 cm before 9 am on Friday and about 20 cm fell since then in Dublin 15. TheseareMet Eireann stats in the attachment. So about 50/60 cm in West Dublin...don't know about other parts.

MJohnston

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

I might be mistaken, but I have not read any mention of official ME snowfall depth records being broken anywhere, not even in the east, which is by far the worst affected part area of the country.

I doubt we'll hear final statistic roundups until Monday at the earliest.

Clareman

Thaw is barely starting here in Ennis, I have to be somewhere at 2, not looking forward to driving a rear wheel car in slush

pad199207

Easily well over 60cm in North Kildare in parts. Ive seen pics of at least 80cm lying in parts.

pistolpetes11

pad199207 wrote: »

Easily well over 60cm in North Kildare in parts. Ive seen pics of at least 80cm lying in parts.

Drove over yesterday , you got hit a lot harder than Newbridge thats for sure , seen some amazing depths and sites when out and about

Ewan Hoosarmi

The Sun is trying hard to get out here in North Wexford. The thaw is well underway. It'll probably be a few days before we can get the car anywhere near the road.

mickmackey1

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

I might be mistaken, but I have not read any mention of official ME snowfall depth records being broken anywhere, not even in the east, which is by far the worst affected part area of the country.

Official snow depth must surely be affected by wind speed. Drifting might not occur in calm conditions, meaning that official depths might be greater but not necessarily that more snow has actually fallen.

fleet_admiral

Thaw has started in Terenure but there is a lot to thaw. The wife nearly got brained earlier in the garden when the snow slid off the neighbours roof ðŸ˜€

tscul32

Best few days ever!! In Swords and thaw well under way. This morning I measured the deepest part on the patio at 26cm! And that was after a couple of hours of thaw. Considering we so rarely see snow on the ground here the kids (including me) were beside themselves. So many snowmen, snowball fights, hot chocolates...
Thanks for all the updates from the experts here, I was the only one at the school gate on Tuesday who believed it would happen. Finally get to have a full night's sleep again, without checking the window and this thread every hour or two.

revelman

revelman wrote: »

I never thought I’d say this but it has just started to rain here and I’m absolutely delighted. Beautiful, glorious and ordinary Irish rain!

The rain has stopped! Time for Plan B:

https://twitter.com/TomClementsTV/status/960895194005757952

Cork Boy 53

sryanbruen wrote: »

Precipitation totals for 2 March 2018

Dunsany - 53.2mm
Roches Point - 43.5mm
Dublin Airport - 35.2mm
Athenry - 26.4mm
Gurteen - 23.6mm
Johnstown Castle - 22.0mm
Phoenix Park - 17.3mm
Ballyhaise - 10.4mm

In comparis9on to this time last year:

But all the precipitation in the list for Mar 2017 that you posted fell as rain, not snow, so I don't see how it is relevant.

[Deleted User]

Some slight snow flurries here in Dundalk at the minute.

Skedaddle

gabeeg wrote: »

We had a mobile phone network in 1984?
That's mad.

Many didn't even have a landline back then. It took up to a year to get one once an order was placed with Telecom Eireann.

A bit off topic, but we were starting to snap out of technological backwardness in infrastructure in the 1980s and catch up rapidly with the rest of Europe.

The Eircell 088 TACS network went live in 1984 and had pretty reasonable coverage by 1986. The first fully digital landline telephone exchanges were in service by 1981, with the whole core network being digital by the late 80s
(way ahead of most of the world actually because we largely skipped a generation of analogue tech.)

The reason for the huge waits in the 1980s was simply that the oldest electromechanical technology used in local exchanges on the landline network was so old it belonged in a museum. The systems couldn't be expanded as the components were simply no longer made. In some cases, the companies that made them didn't even exist anymore. It was 1920s-50s technology. So, they couldn't provide new lines to people who ordered them until they were replaced with digital switching. Hence, you had to wait for up to 5 years in some areas.

Interestingly, the first satellite channels on cable tv were on air in about 1983/4 in Cork City and by the late 80s in Dublin and elsewhere too.

The 1980s weren't entirely dismal!

Winter in Dublin or Cork in the 1980s was a smoke-bound mess with a stinking, heavily polluted river flowing through the city centre and very little in the way of onwards infrastructure for transport.

There's no question though but that we are MUCH, MUCH more able to deal with a major weather event now than we were in 1980s Ireland. The comparisons are like two different countries. We've really gone though quite spectacular improvements in a lot of areas and you only see it when you look back at old archive material of how things were.

sryanbruen

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

But all the precipitation in the list for Mar 2017 that you posted fell as rain, not snow, so I don't see how it is relevant.

The comparison is the large precipitation totals around the same times of year making it an amusing coincidence with just a year difference. As a statistician, I enjoy making comparisons like this. It's just like from 19c on 11 March 2012 to -1c on the 11 March 2013 as daytime maxima.

greasepalm

rear wheel drive cars stay off the road as one poor idiot in a rear wheel drive with left rear wheel spinning merc going nowhere.main roads in places drive-able but side road still deep and lethal,seen snow ploughs busy on roads thanks guys.

dsmythy

Happy enough to call it sleet falling in Dublin 11

kmoneill

Dont think there wil b much of a thaw here today,snowing lightly now ,about 12 to 14 cm lying,1 degree but feels more like minus 2 or 3 in a biting ENE wind..east kery...

munsterlegend

kmoneill wrote: »

Dont think there wil b much of a thaw here today,snowing lightly now ,about 12 to 14 cm lying,1 degree but feels more like minus 2 or 3 in a biting ENE wind..east kery...

Same here. Need the strength of the sun for any large scale melting which won't be happening today.

Gonzo

snow has turned to sleet here now.

Emma really bounced back here yesterday afternoon and the precipitation hasn't really stopped since. There is between one and two foot of snow in most places here and 3 feet snow drifts in several parts of the garden.

There is a thaw on, but you can't even see whats melted so far, there is just so much snow.

This time yesterday I was saying that there was more snow during 2010 and way more in 1982, but after what fell yesterday evening and last night, 2010 is well beaten here now, probably still not as much as 1982 but not far off it.

Going to attempt to make the 2km walk to Dunshaughlin to try and stock up on some essential supplies in Supervalu as we are now running very low on food.

CZ 453

Just drove to Cork City centre. Thawing slowly and main roads are passable mostly in one lane.

HONKEY TONK

Thawing quickly in Naas

Goodbye Mr Snowman.....Goodbye

mirrorwall14

We've about an inch of cover gone but a looooong way to go yet. And I'm super antsy at this stage, really want to get out and about

(Edit: We've had snow cover since Tuesday night, its now Saturday. My three year old isn't able for the depth that is out there currently so only short trips out possible as he gets super cold. Path is dug out. Cars are completely stuck as the road is too deep. I love snow but I'm done now!)

Kermit.de.frog

29 cm here in flat open ground near Santry. Much more obviously in drifts.

Not bad, not bad at all.

MJohnston

Between now and sunset the cloud should thin a little bit along with the temperature rise, which should accelerate the thaw:

Rain will help too

Cork Boy 53

sryanbruen wrote: »

The comparison is the large precipitation totals around the same times of year making it an amusing coincidence with just a year difference. As a statistician, I enjoy making comparisons like this. It's just like from 19c on 11 March 2012 to -1c on the 11 March 2013 as daytime maxima.

OK fair enough. I can`t find it now but if I recall correctly, someone posted that at the end of the freezing weather in December 2010, there was a 20 degree Celsius increase in temperature in the space of 24 hours. Is that correct?