nozzferrahhtoo wrote: » Again look at 5:44 in the video. Slow it down to 0.25 play speed which you can do on you tube. Joe gives him the note. The Magician then brings his OTHER hand up from a concealed position and places it down over the note. Then fumbles the hands together. This is a classic 101 move.
nozzferrahhtoo wrote: » EDIT: Or actually more likely now I think about it is the reason the switch was so fumbled and relatively long was he was folding down the ditch note so small that he kept it palmed through the entire trick. Harder to do but it is remarkable what you can keep palmed and hidden even when seemingly giving flashes of an empty hand to the audience and camera. But over all, pretty sure it was a switch trick, not a push trick from earlier on.
nozzferrahhtoo wrote: » Funny you should say this. When myself and a few others were studying the techniques of such frauds we noticed something at the time. What we noticed was a claim (I believe it is true but have not checked it deeply) that people who make maps tend to include one small error deliberately in the map so if anyone copies their work they can prove it. Because if your competitor has the same error as you, they must have cheated and plagarized your map. So a few of us uploaded our CVs to a few sites at the time (was awhile ago now) and each included one lie in it. A job experience we never actually had. We then visited a medium/psychic. My own lie was work I had done in the sewage systems which I thought was funny at the time. The job being a load of crap you see. But my medium / psychic started discussing my history and said things like "I am getting images of a history..... somewhere in the dark..... somewhere that smelled really bad....." and in the end started getting really frustrated with me when I was like "No no I really do not remember any such experience". Until at the end she was THROWING specifics at me "It was a job. I know it was a job. Something to do with....... human waste maybe.......????" before she finally abandoned it.
nozzferrahhtoo wrote: » This is a classic 101 move.
nozzferrahhtoo wrote: » But, again the problem with television is that a lot of those techniques happen before you know it. In fact with a LOT of magic the trick is done LONG before the bit the observer focuses on. Many card tricks for example... if the trick lasts 5 minutes the actual "move" the trick is based on probably happened in the first 20 seconds. The rest of it is misdirection and patter and play. Derren Brown write a bit about this in "Confessions of a conjurer" (hope I remembered that title right, too lazy to check). And unfortunately your video comes in / starts right at the delivery end of the trick. He is in a room he was clearly in for I do not know how long before the video started, and likely a lot of the "moves" I would be looking for would have happened then. The TV show shows the amazing bit. But never shows the bit I would need to see as a critical observer.
koumi wrote: » Aware of how few agents actually looked at CV's
Cheerful Spring wrote: » Good point I noticed it now touching the bill gave him the opportunity to switch the bill.
Cheerful Spring wrote: » How does David Blaine do his trick would that not be harder to pull off?
HappyAsLarE wrote: » There are two types of people in this world; those that know psychics are charlatans, and idiots.
nozzferrahhtoo wrote: » Reminds me of an old joke I heard somewhere. This employer gets a stack of job applications. Before reading ANY of them he randomly mixes them.... splits the pile into two.... and throws the first pile in the bin. When asked why he did this he replies "I do not like to hire unlucky people". Yea, I warn anyone who will listen that if you think a magician is about to do a trick with money then try hard to see the last three digits of the serial number BEFORE you give him the note. Had Rogan done that, I genuinely believe it would have ruined the trick entirely. It is a more impressive trick for sure. But one that all the "mentalist" people do. Barry. Blaine, Brown all do their own version of it. What I said before however is why I can not really go into more detail. When you do a card trick, if the trick lasts 5 minutes the actual move the trick is based on is usually done in the first 30 seconds. The rest is just filler and patter and distraction. Similarly the techniques used here likely happened BEFORE the video you linked to started. See how the video started with them all already in a room? They were clearly there already, and for some time too. Most of what I would like to see before commenting on the trick likely happened in that period. So my hands are tied on that one. I can not give you any specific answers. I thought there were 10 types of people in the world. Those that understand binary notation and those that do not
kumate_champ07 wrote: » what specific things did the person know about that they couldnt possibly have discovered thru public knowledge/investigation or cold reading? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13YaVfpjGL4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vHS0dZl3OU
decky1 wrote: » when I posted her it was just to say I find the whole physic thing a mystery, how do these people know what they know? none of the things she told my daughters would have been on social media or anything else , what she said was totally true there is no way she would find these things out from anywhere ?[she never questioned my daughters in any way] I realise from some of the comments people joke about it sure why not [never let people stop you laughing it makes life so enjoyable] sorry for repeating myself but there is no possible way this woman would have known anything about my family, Parents etc.
