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Off Topic Thread 4.0

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[Deleted User]

Buer wrote: »

Whilst I would never call him a coward as I have no idea how I would react, the guy absolutely failed to do what he was employed to do. He has resigned but there had to be an investigation into his inaction.

He definitely let down himself and those he was supposed to protect. Trump calling him a coward is a disgrace though. I would imagine he is enduring all sorts of horrendous threats and abuse at the moment not to mention his family. Trump is essentially vindicating those threats.

I wouldn't call him a coward. He's not a soldier and we don't know what he is meant to do in that situation. Go in? Wait for backup? Even if he is meant to go in after the shooter, I don't know if I'd go running in against one or multiple heavily armed gun men. I think it's pathetic that he is being singled out, responsible adults would try and shield him from culpability but instead the grown ups have gone out of their way to ruin his life so they can deflect responsibility.

I've no idea. Maybe he is a coward but there have been loads of mass shootings where others nearby were armed and also failed to do anything.

Trump calling him anything is ****ing pathetic though. I've reached a point where I'm no longer capable of articulating just how awful a person he is.

Buer

CatFromHue wrote: »

deputy school resource officer

is such a strange title, I wonder what his actual job, training, and remit were.

He's a member of the sheriff's department and had been since 1985. He was in that role since 2009. I would assume it's something similar to a JLO here. He was on a very tidy salary in the job.

I feel pity for him and what he's going through now. It's hard to know how anyone would ever react in such a scenario.

CatFromHue

deputy school resource officer

is such a strange title, I wonder what his actual job, training, and remit were.

stephen_n

Buer wrote: »

Whilst I would never call him a coward as I have no idea how I would react, the guy absolutely failed to do what he was employed to do. He has resigned but there had to be an investigation into his inaction.

He definitely let down himself and those he was supposed to protect. Trump calling him a coward is a disgrace though. I would imagine he is enduring all sorts of horrendous threats and abuse at the moment not to mention his family. Trump is essentially vindicating those threats.

Well cowardice is actually one of the only subjects he can speak from a position of authority on.

Buer

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

The deputy school resource officer is now being hung out to dry, being called a coward it seems by the President and his Sheriff.
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Whilst I would never call him a coward as I have no idea how I would react, the guy absolutely failed to do what he was employed to do. He has resigned but there had to be an investigation into his inaction.

He definitely let down himself and those he was supposed to protect. Trump calling him a coward is a disgrace though. I would imagine he is enduring all sorts of horrendous threats and abuse at the moment not to mention his family. Trump is essentially vindicating those threats.

Dave_The_Sheep

The deputy school resource officer is now being hung out to dry, being called a coward it seems by the President and his Sheriff.

Instead of the obvious response which is ... "maybe more guns in schools isn't actually a good idea".

[Deleted User]

prawnsambo wrote: »

And I know Alex Jones and his ilk are quite probably pretending it never happened a la Sandy Hook. :rolleyes:

If that was all they did it would be bad but not awful. But no, they push the idea that it was in fact staged with actors. He's pushing this again this time, the parents are already having to take action to protect themselves from death threats.

Outrageously ****ed up country.

thomond2006

They are their own parody.

b.gud

Yeah_Right wrote: »

Whats the story with NRA membership? I've done some cursory research and numbers are all over the place. How does someone become a member? Do just have to pay a registration fee? Do you actually have to own a gun? Could all the anti-gun people join and bring it down from the inside?

Funny you should ask that I came across this interesting bit of info on NRA membership this morning

https://twitter.com/goldengateblond/status/966710494689185792

Yeah_Right

Whats the story with NRA membership? I've done some cursory research and numbers are all over the place. How does someone become a member? Do just have to pay a registration fee? Do you actually have to own a gun? Could all the anti-gun people join and bring it down from the inside?

prawnsambo

awec wrote: »

It was at some conservative hick gun loving neanderthal gathering so I imagine he was surrounded by like minded individuals.

But even the most brain-dead hick has to wonder why a bunch of schoolkids who would like to go to school without the fear of being shot could be equated to 'elites' and 'socialists'.

And I know Alex Jones and his ilk are quite probably pretending it never happened a la Sandy Hook. :rolleyes:

Zzippy

Trumpers believe that anyone who disagrees with them are part of an "elite", no matter the economic status of the other party. It's the biggest conspiracy theory ever sold, and millions have bought it.

awec

prawnsambo wrote: »

If you read reports of the head of the NRA's speech yesterday, you'd be wondering how people can listen to that stuff without feeling patronised and treated like simpletons. Talking about 'elites' and 'socialists' coming to take away their second amendment rights. It was below the level of "four legs good, two legs bad".

It was at some conservative hick gun loving neanderthal gathering so I imagine he was surrounded by like minded individuals.

stephen_n

prawnsambo wrote: »

If you read reports of the head of the NRA's speech yesterday, you'd be wondering how people can listen to that stuff without feeling patronised and treated like simpletons. Talking about 'elites' and 'socialists' coming to take away their second amendment rights. It was below the level of "four legs good, two legs bad".

It’s not like he said anything new, it’s just the NRA’s standard response after every single mass shooting. As we have seen, constantly repeating the same message, regardless of its validity or veracity, works in America.

prawnsambo

If you read reports of the head of the NRA's speech yesterday, you'd be wondering how people can listen to that stuff without feeling patronised and treated like simpletons. Talking about 'elites' and 'socialists' coming to take away their second amendment rights. It was below the level of "four legs good, two legs bad".

[Deleted User]

swiwi_ wrote: »

Ah now, I was only pulling you...pulling your leg.

It's often confused for a leg alright!

I'm certain I've posted this before, but here is one of the reason why her ugliness outshines her beauty.

swiwi_

Deleted User wrote: »

Pretty, yes, Soul? No.

Watch her propaganda videos on YouTube if you can stomach them.

Optics aside, my overall opinion is that she is a very ugly person.

Ah now, I was only pulling you...pulling your leg.

molloyjh

Buer wrote: »

You know the thing about a spokesperson for the NRA, she's got...
lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll's eye. When she comes at ya, doesn't
seem to be livin'. Until she bites ya and those black eyes roll over white.

I'm glad someone could see where I was going with that.

Buer

You know the thing about a spokesperson for the NRA, she's got...
lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll's eye. When she comes at ya, doesn't
seem to be livin'. Until she bites ya and those black eyes roll over white.

irishbucsfan

molloyjh wrote: »

Based on that pic alone she scares me. I can picture her legs around my throat, and not in a good way. Look at those eyes. Those empty, lifeless eyes.....

Sigh...

irishbucsfan

Deleted User wrote: »

Pretty, yes, Soul? No.

Watch her propaganda videos on YouTube if you can stomach them.

Optics aside, my overall opinion is that she is a very ugly person.

Wholesome Venjur

molloyjh

Based on that pic alone she scares me. I can picture her legs around my throat, and not in a good way. Look at those eyes. Those empty, lifeless eyes.....

[Deleted User]

swiwi_ wrote: »

Not a fan of the American gun lobby, but I reckon NRA spokesperson Dana Loesch could tempt Venjur to fire off a few rounds

Pretty, yes, Soul? No.

Watch her propaganda videos on YouTube if you can stomach them.

Optics aside, my overall opinion is that she is a very ugly person.

swiwi_

Not a fan of the American gun lobby, but I reckon NRA spokesperson Dana Loesch could tempt Venjur to fire off a few rounds

Jack Kanoff

Sweet baby Jebus!

'Semedo charged with attempted murder'

http://www.skysports.com/share/11262136

kuang1

Any recommendations for a decent pub in Edinburgh to watch the match on Saturday?

prawnsambo

Or this one which the Onion recycles every time there's a mass shooting

b.gud

I think this tweet kinda sums up the gun control situation in America

https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/611943312401002496

Zzippy

irishbucsfan wrote: »

There was a brilliant tweet (not sure if it's an old joke) a few days ago which was along the lines of:

'Whenever I hear someone say "The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun" I think, here is someone who wants to sell two guns"

Zzippy wrote: »

I saw a good tweet that I think accurately reflects the lobbying power behind gun control (the lack of) in the US, something like:

Americans like to say it takes a good person with a gun to stop a bad guy with a gun. But that sounds to me like someone trying to sell 2 guns.

I swear guys, I'm not IBF...

[Deleted User]

molloyjh wrote: »

That stuff is brought up all the time. And summarily shot down with bogus studies or just totally ignored. Every last bit of objective evidence on the matter proves beyond doubt that gun control works. But too many people don't want to hear it and refuse to believe it.

There are no studies. Republicans and by proxy the NRA have banned any studies by government institutions in the US into gun deaths.

The Democrats have actually just tabled a bill to allow this kind of research to be done, but when one side doesn't even want the information to be made available you begin to appreciate the scale of the challenge.