Delirium wrote: » You're confusing Mormons with Jehovah's Witnesses.
NuMarvel wrote: » Personally, I use the phrase unborn, because it's what's in the 8th that you think we should keep. That way anti-repealers can't use faux outrage to distract from the discussion. I just thought it was interesting that even though you cited Getty Images, you specifically didn't use the term they used. Most likely because it didn't suit your agenda.
J C wrote: » Here is an actual miscarried 12 week old unborn child:-Warning graphic image of a dead unborn childhttps://www.humpath.com/IMG/jpg_fetus_12w_formalin_12_2.jpg ... and it is anatomically identical to this image:-
Bob_Marley wrote: » As Leo says they all mean the same thing . . take it up with him
NuMarvel wrote: » And yet you couldn't bring yourself to use the phrase fetus when citing a source that used precisely that term.
wrote: Originally Posted by J C What is best for me isn't always best for others ... and when it isn't ... there ends my right to choose what is best for meuptherebels funny how you don't hold your side to the same standard
david75 wrote: » Because they have the broadest range of ages and incomes. If I go to rural Leitrim I’m only going to encounter 50+ kid income level farmer not well educated and not well travelled or experienced. If I go to cork or Galway I’m going to find a range of lifestyles and educations and incomes and can then compile an accurate poll You clearly don’t have the vaguest notion on how polling works sweetie. Don’t go there until you’ve read up on it even a little bit.
Bob_Marley wrote: » You might need to read Leo's article again . . .
NuMarvel wrote: » I was asking about what you said, not Leo, but if you're such a Leo fan, I'll guess you'll be voting repeal too. Because that's also what Leo wants.
J C wrote: » I do indeed. This happens when a Christian doctor provides the best possible medical care for both an unborn child and her mother.
david75 wrote: » I’ll ask again. Cos I know you’re totally unable to answer Acting on conscience in any matter is utterly stupid and reductive. If I had a shop and refused to sell to catholics or muslims because I have a sincerely held belief that they were both intrinsically evil and disordered, I’d be well within my rights in terms of belief but I’d be keel hauled in the media and the courts. Then we go to medicine. Sincerely held beliefs have no place whatsoever in medicine. Many families in the Mormon faith have allowed their own children die because organ transplant and blood donation is strictly against their sincerely held beliefs. So where are you on that? you really want to bring sincerely held beliefs and faith into this with regards doctors?
david75 wrote: » Grasping at straws. Red c only use population centres that have a broad range of age and economic backgrounds. Its called demographics. Look it up. Jesus you guys are totally clueless aren’t you? Getting desperate obviously too.
david75 wrote: » I’m actually not. Above depicts catholics flying away with other people’s money and rights
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » Looks nothing like the cartoons that you post
Bob_Marley wrote: » I have, but clearly you haven't - the assembly was supposed to provide regional spread. Looks like the red C recruiter didn't have any pals or relatives in the following counties :https://www.irishtimes.com/news/science/an-unintended-bias-in-the-citizens-assembly-1.2908884
J C wrote: » You can bring a horse to water but you can't make him drink. The two images are anatomically identical ... something you would expect, from an image produced by medical professionals at a US Government Agency. What is interesting is that you quibble over whether we are looking at an anatomically correct image or an actual photo ... when they are identical for all intents and purposes. The objective Humanity of both images is the key thing ... and you obviously cannot deny this ... so you quibble over inessential details instead.
end of the road wrote: » if a doctor does not wish to cary out an abortion they have a right not to. nope wrong, not grasping at straws at all. something as important as this assembly has a duty to represent all counties within the state. the only one getting desperate is you with the abuse of other posters, calling them clueless among other names throughout the thread. you have no evidence that the poster doesn't have the vaguest notion on how polling works sweetie. one will go where they like and won't be dictated to by you. you actually are confusing Mormons with Jehovah's Witnesses.
Bob_Marley wrote: » But if you ignore what the the pro abortion leader says , why should I not ?
david75 wrote: » Nobody even reads your posts anymore least of all me. Start talking sense and we might.
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » The images you post are OBVIOUSLY not though! You post images of fully formed babies with eye.lids, finger nails and full finger separation! The correct image of an ACTUAL 12 week old fetus has non of those attributes.
david75 wrote: » Face you make when you realise you’re trying to get sense out of people who believe there a magic man in the sky who made and controls everything and they go to a building every week where they believe they’re eating his body and drinking his blood and somehow they believe they’re right And they then use bible quotes to back up their poiht.Jesus Christ. If you’re out there. Come save us from this utter endless stupidity. Oh wait.
J C wrote: » The irony is that Jesus will Save you if you genuinely ask. ... and it is indeed 'utter endless stupidity' ... to not avail of Salvation.
david75 wrote: » Well the timing is very strange but this is happening Seven judges to hear appeal over rights of unborn Judgment may affect the wording of the referendum on the Eighth Amendmenthttps://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/supreme-court/seven-judges-to-hear-appeal-over-rights-of-unborn-1.3399385
splinter65 wrote: » I’m here 24 hours later waiting for clarification from you re my post count in this thread. I’m off to ask a mod about the rules around just straightforward lies.
david75 wrote: » It’s accurate though. You and everyone from your POV seem to have unlimited time to be here and argue. Endlessly. Is that not weird? It’s bizarre in fact. I’m postulating that perhaps that would be time better spent would it not? You have the highest post count i this thread by a long long way. I’m not clutching at anything by the way. Least of all at women’s wombs.
splinter65 wrote: » David your like one of those schoolyard bullies shouting “no one likes you any more” Who is “nobody” and who is “we”?
