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M50 incident flat tyres

rosmoke

On my way to the airport on northbound, while driving on m50, I went over something what looked like a truck's driveshaft (huge and thick metal bar).
Bottom line I got 2 flat tyres and incident support unit was there but couldn't take the bar from the road till traffic cleared up a bit ...
2 other cars had flat tyres as well, the platform pick me up and dropped me to a service near by (sound of him), after he scratched a bit my front bumper underneath ..

I had to buy 2 tyres, have receipt and everything, who pays for it?
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Stheno

You I'd guess?

Who do you think should pay for It?

rosmoke

Well I imagine someone who didn't secure his load.
Why would I pay for someone else's mistake? m50 is full with cameras ..

Stheno

rosmoke wrote: »

Well I imagine someone who didn't secure his load.
Why would I pay for someone else's mistake? m50 is full with cameras ..

One could argue that if you were driving wihdue care and attention you'd have noticed the "huge and thick metal bar" and taken action to avoid It? Would you like a summons on top?

Sure the m50 is full of cameras which will have recorded your poor driving

[Deleted User]

rosmoke wrote: »

Well I imagine someone who didn't secure his load.
Why would I pay for someone else's mistake? m50 is full with cameras ..

Good luck getting them to go through cameras to try an track that, the man power required would cost way more than a set of tyres

Ajsoprano

Who do you ring when you break down on a motorway?

rosmoke

You're joking or bored?
You can't avoid a 1.5m long bar when you are driving with 90km/h on 3rd lane and you have cars in your right and left.

Also there were 2 other cars that went over it, it was actually very dangerous and the lad from m50 incident support unit has also confirmed that it wasn't my fault and I couldn't have avoided it.

Stheno

Ajsoprano wrote: »

Who do you ring when you break daiwn on a motorway?

The m50 has a dedicated breakdown service run from their control room. It's an excellent service I once broke down in rush hour and they were with me in about ten minutes

rosmoke

Ajsoprano wrote: »

Who do you ring when you break down on a motorway?

M50 support unit were there on the scene and they won't let you change the wheel on the side of the road as it's unsafe (at least that's what he said when it's driver's side), so they call the platform and it drops you to the 1st exit for free.

Stheno

rosmoke wrote: »

You're joking or bored?
You can't avoid a 1.5m long bar when you are driving with 90km/h on 3rd lane and you have cars in your front and left.

Also there were 2 other cars that went over it, it was actually very dangerous and the lad from m50 incident support unit has also confirmed that it wasn't my fault and I couldn't have avoided it.

Nope I'm serious

You didn't see it and just blindly drove into It?

Just pay up and move on.

[Deleted User]

Stheno wrote: »

One could argue that if you were driving wihdue care and attention you'd have noticed the "huge and thick metal bar" and taken action to avoid It? Would you like a summons on top?

Sure the m50 is full of cameras which will have recorded your poor driving

This is total bull in fairness. It physically impossible to travel at a speed to avoid any potential obsticle. Even an sizeable iron bar would be almost invisible on a road surface at any distance.

I hate when people make the "you should always be able to stop statement" as it's simply not possble unless everyone drive around at 5kmh on every road including motorways.

The op had very little chance of any comeback but that does not change the fact that it's not his fault a dangerous obsticle was left in the middle of the road.

Odyssey 2005

If you ran over an iron bat on the road in Belmullet who would you expect to pay for your tyres. ?
Just because it's the m50 it's not your fault !!

[Deleted User]

Stheno wrote: »

Nope I'm serious

You didn't see it and just blindly drove into It?

Just pay up and move on.

what else was he going to do, swerve into a bunch of other cars at speed and cause a major accident?

jimbobaloobob

Few years ago, driving from Dublin to Limerick on the motorway a truck entered the gravel trap going the opposite direction on the motorway spraying stones onto the opposite road direction.
I had my bonnet nicely re decorated and windscreen had about 10 holes in it.
I payed for the repair as did the other motorists who were unfortunate.

Truck was probably unaware of the events they caused. I think its unfortunate but just comes down to bad luck.

rosmoke

Stheno wrote: »

Nope I'm serious

You didn't see it and just blindly drove into It?

Just pay up and move on.

I've seen it and I pressed the break, but if I would've pressed the break more I would've caused an accident !

Stop imagining unreal situations.
I just told you a fact that was confirmed by the m50 support unit that were on the scene !

Stheno

Angela Large Insect wrote: »

This is total bull in fairness. It physically impossible to travel at a speed to avoid any potential obsticle. Even an sizeable iron bar would be almost invisible on a road surface at any distance.

I hate when people make the "you should always be able to stop statement" as it's simply not possble unless everyone drive around at 5kmh on every road including motorways.

How did the cars the up claims was ahead of them avoid It? Honestly I'm sick to death of people not wanting to take responsibilityfor their ****ups

Ajsoprano

Stheno wrote: »

The m50 has a dedicated breakdown service run from their control room. It's an excellent service I once broke down in rush hour and they were with me in about ten minutes

So you just sit and wait? It’s embarrassing I’m driving so long and never thought of this.

Stheno

rosmoke wrote: »

I've seen it and I pressed the break, but if I would've pressed the break more I would've caused an accident !

Stop imagining unreal situations.
I just told you a fact that was confirmed by the m50 support unit that were on the scene !

No you expressed their opinion you could have put on your hazards and braked

So you actually saw the obstruction?

[Deleted User]

Stheno wrote: »

How did the cars the up claims was ahead of them avoid It? Honestly I'm sick to death of people not wanting to take responsibilityfor their ****ups

If he hit a cow on the road or skidded on a bit of muck the farmer responsible would be hauled in front of the court, as has happened many times. What's so different about this situation??

James Bond Junior

Stheno, your posts are normally a voice of reason and level headedness. Poor form imho, if it can be proved where it came from why should the OP pay?

Stheno

Ajsoprano wrote: »

So you just sit and wait? It’s embarrassing I’m driving so long and never thought of this.

In my case my timing belt went near the n4 junction.
I pulled onto the hard shoulder and rang my insurance as I've breakdown cover but ten minutes later the m50 guys arrived.

I think it's the only motorway with this service

Hurrache

Goose81 wrote: »

Good luck getting them to go through cameras to try an track that, the man power required would cost way more than a set of tyres

Won't happen as the cameras don't record footage, unless something has changed recently.

jimbobaloobob

Hurrache wrote: »

Won't happen as the cameras don't record footage, unless something has changed recently.

are they just for monitoring traffic flow?

rosmoke

Stheno wrote: »

No you expressed their opinion you could have put on your hazards and braked

So you actually saw the obstruction?

Let me make it easier for you.
It wasn't my fault or the other's 2 other drivers who went over the drive shaft.

I saw the obstruction and I had one second to react, the car in front of me went over it, I went over it, I had cars in left and right.
I was there and I'm saying that I couldn't avoid it, you were not there.
I'm driving for 8 years claim free, not from yesterday.

I have a big dent on my alloy as well, have to find someone who repairs them.

Stheno

James Bond Junior wrote: »

Stheno, your posts are normally a voice of reason and level headedness. Poor form imho, if it can be proved where it came from why should the OP pay?

Op has said they saw the obstruction and chose not to brake, so took a chance and now wants someoneto pay. My oh drove through a flood recently despite a warning and damaged his car, should the council pay for not having flood defences in place? I think not.

Personal responsibility has a lot to be said for it

[Deleted User]

There was a really nuts story on joe Duffy last month that where a guy had a springleaf come off a truck in front of him, go through his window and if there had been a passenger it would have gone straight through their head.

I actually avoid driving behind trucks ever since hearing that, frightening

bucketybuck

James Bond Junior wrote: »

Stheno, your posts are normally a voice of reason and level headedness. Poor form imho, if it can be proved where it came from why should the OP pay?

Unless the shaft fell off the vehicle in front of him directly into his path, then we are talking about hitting a 1.5 meter object that was already laying in the road. Driving with due care and attention involves seeing things like that.

Also, I know some of the M50/Kelly recovery lads, sound as they come but their opinion as to blame or fault carries as exactly as much weight as anybody elses.

Stheno

rosmoke wrote: »

Let me make it easier for you.
It wasn't my fault or the other's 2 other drivers who went over the drive shaft.

I saw the obstruction and I had one second to react, the car in front of me went over it, I went over it, I had cars in left and right.
I was there and I'm saying that I couldn't avoid it, you were not there.
I'm driving for 8 years claim free, not from yesterday.

I have a big dent on my alloy as well, have to find someone who repairs them.

Wheel wizards in finglas are excellentat alloy repairs

James Bond Junior

Stheno wrote: »

Op has said they saw the obstruction and chose not to brake, so took a chance and now wants someoneto pay. My oh drove through a flood recently despite a warning and damaged his car, should the council pay for not having flood defences in place? I think not.

Personal responsibility has a lot to be said for it

OP did not say he chose not to brake. He said he braked in such a way as not to put other road users in danger which resulted in going over the metal bar. Will you cop on to yourself.

bucketybuck

rosmoke wrote: »

I saw the obstruction and I had one second to react, the car in front of me went over it, I went over it, I had cars in left and right.

So much for safe distance behind the car in front.

Doltanian

You should ride a horse like some of the lads on here op, next time you can just jump over any debris left in your way. If right was right then the truck or whatever was transporting that should be held accountable to compensate you. Even if camera's were recording I doubt they'd just give out the footage.