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Neyite wrote: » A 4 week embryo cant be found in amongst the clotting. It is the size of a SESAME SEED at four weeks. It can't even be seen on a scan. A woman won't feel it passing from her vagina. At 4 weeks it's a period with a zygote that failed to implant. Your "woman" would have had no idea if that zygote was male or female, so dunno how she chose a name. As for burying it? At four weeks? That never happened and its actually really nasty of you to assert its even possible and give false hope to a bereaved mother.
2wsxcde3 wrote: » Being pro-life is not about judging "good girls" from "bad girls". That's an idea that exists in many pro-choicers head because they feel they are "judged" if they have an abortion. Being pro-life is motivated by wanting to protect the unborn child who has no voice. And protecting women who are tricked into thinking abortion is a good thing ...only to find out the true horrors of it once the abortion has actually taken place. No one is judging women who've had abortions. That's an idea pro-choicers need to get out of their head, really for their own good as its not nice (or good) to feel judged by anyone.
2wsxcde3 wrote: » No ones suggesting they have to go to trial. Simply file a report at a garda station that they have been raped and would like an abortion. The women need take no further action beyond that. But obviously pro-choicers don't trust women enough to tell the truth.
2wsxcde3 wrote: » It's not my story, I posted a link earlier to the womans story:When I miscarried I passed the baby onto my pad. I was very early (4 weeks) but could tell that tissue was different and was my baby. I got a soft cloth and put him on it, I wrapped him, and buried him in our yard. Then I lit a candle and put it there alone with a piece of paper that I wrote his name on and a flower. It was my way of marking his grave. Even a year later all 3 items were still there! However, I do regret burying him there because we moved about 6 months ago. It was very hard to leave him there after being able to visit him whenever for 2 years! The last day before we left I did light his candle one more time.(Source: https://community.babycenter.com/post/a21467597/what_did_you_do_with_your_miscarried_baby )
blanch152 wrote: » I don't want to be unnecessarily upsetting people, particularly the woman who posted that story, but there is absolutely no way that she could be sure that anything she passed at 4 weeks was a baby unless it was tested.
2wsxcde3 wrote: I trust women not to abuse the system. Though i'm still against abortion in cases of rape as the baby is innocent.
JDD wrote: » Except, those who say that they are pro-life but would permit an abortion in the circumstance of rape, is judging. Are they not? Because they are saying that this is the only circumstance where a woman should be allowed to have an abortion in one where she did not actively participate in the sex that resulted in the pregnancy. All other reasons for having an abortion are off the table.
2wsxcde3 wrote: » When you introduce abortion on demand into a society, it comes along with so many unavoidable negative side effects. So the goal in alot of peoples minds is to restrict it.
Andrew Beef wrote: » The interaction between abortion and rape is a key issue; at least I have proposed a potential solution rather than simply rant and gas-bag as most people do. Complex issues such as this are so polarising and will never result in agreement.
January wrote: » For all she knows she buried a blood clot, but sure if it makes her feel better about what happened to her then leave her off.
uptherebels wrote: » What are these many negative side effects?
2wsxcde3 wrote: » Boyfriends putting pressure on their girlfriends to get an abortion against the wishes of the woman. Women regretting having an abortion like the "C Case" woman here in Ireland in 1997 who says she thinks about the baby she aborted every day. Unborn children die (who were wanted by adopted parents even though the mother and/or father might not have wanted them or thought they didn't want them). Lowered birth rate in the country and so we will need to import people (from cultures with values very different to our own) like Germany and Sweden did. A loss of humanity in the country like in the UK and USA where they were burning unborn babies to heat hospitals and thought nothing of it. And alot of others including some women die from abortions while others are left infertile. Abortion on demand is like a new drug a pharmaceutical company tries to sell you. But the side-effects from the drug are worse than the problem it was trying to cure.
amdublin wrote: » Abortion on request in Ireland might actually reduce the amount of Irish abortions.
2wsxcde3 wrote: » I'm sure some people said that in the UK in 1967.
drkpower wrote: » This type of comment is really disappointing. Early pregnancy scans can be carried out at 6 weeks from LMP. That's a gestational age of c. 4 weeks (ie. from the date of conception). There are many people who lose a pregnancy at 4 weeks and are devastated by that. To demean that experience is just unnecessary.
amdublin wrote: » I have faith and trust Irish women.
amdublin wrote: » Remember all the hooha and propaganda before the divorce referendum. Hey guess what the sky did not fall down. Ok correct me if I'm wrong but divorces per year (per capita)are less in Ireland than the UK?
amdublin wrote: » Again the marriage equality referendum. Two years later and all is ok and good.
2wsxcde3 wrote: » We now have two straight men getting married in order to defraud the tax man. That's only after two years. Same sex marriage is still in experimental mode and its already throwing up problems.
2wsxcde3 wrote: » So you trust Irish women but not UK women. That makes no sense. Aren't both pretty much the same? Lower so far. The numbers are increasing. There is a time lag between actually bringing in divorce into a country and people actually getting divorced as commonplace like in the USA for example. We now have two straight men getting married in order to defraud the tax man. That's only after two years. Same sex marriage is still in experimental mode and its already throwing up problems.
2wsxcde3 wrote: » Boyfriends putting pressure on their girlfriends to get an abortion against the wishes of the woman.
2wsxcde3 wrote: » [*]Women regretting having an abortion like the "C Case" woman here in Ireland in 1997 who says she thinks about the baby she aborted every day.
2wsxcde3 wrote: » [*]Unborn children die (who were wanted by adopted parents even though the mother and/or father might not have wanted them or thought they didn't want them).
2wsxcde3 wrote: » [*]Lowered birth rate in the country and so we will need to import people (from cultures with values very different to our own) like Germany and Sweden did.
2wsxcde3 wrote: » [*]A loss of humanity in the country like in the UK and USA where they were burning unborn babies to heat hospitals and thought nothing of it.
2wsxcde3 wrote: » And alot of others including some women die from abortions while others are left infertile. Abortion on demand is like a new drug a pharmaceutical company tries to sell you. But the side-effects from the drug are worse than the problem it was trying to cure.
