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Kerrydude1981

Kerry Senior Hurling Team v Meath

Allianz Hurling League Round 4 Sunday February 25th, 2018

1 Martin Stackpoole Lixnaw

2 John Buckley Lixnaw

3 Bryan Murphy Causeway

4 Sean Weir Crotta O’Neills

5 Tomás O’Connor Crotta O’Neills

6 Mikey Boyle Ballyduff

7 Daniel Collins Kilmoyley

8 Brandon Barrett Causeway

9 Dáithí Griffin St. Brendans Ardfert

10 Paudie O’Connor Kilmoyley

11 Padraig Boyle (captain) Ballyduff

12 Brendan O’Leary Abbeydorney

13 Jack Goulding Ballyduff

14 Shane Conway Lixnaw

15 Jordan Conway Crotta O’Neills

Fir Ionaid:

16 Stephen Murphy Causeway

17 James O’Connor Abbeydorney

18 Darren Dineen St Brendans Ardfert

19 Colum Harty Causeway

20 Shane Nolan Crotta O’Neills

21 Maurice O’Connor Kilmoyley

22 Daniel O’Carroll Ballyduff

23 Barry O’Mahony Crotta O’Neills

24 Philip Lucid Ballyheigue

25 Pa Kelly Clarecastle

26 Tom Murnane Kilmoyley

ShamoBuc

ciarriaithuaidh wrote: »

Is that the young lad who got injured during the week? Terrible if it's serious enough to postpone game.

Yes.

ciarriaithuaidh

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Yeah, looks like it's developed into a very serious situation, right decision.

Is that the young lad who got injured during the week? Terrible if it's serious enough to postpone game.

ShamoBuc

Claregaafan18 wrote: »

Big news that the Corn Ui Mhuiri final between PCD and Tralee CBS due to take place tomorrow has been called off due to "unforeseen circumstances".

Details of the re-fixture will be announced early next week.

Yeah, looks like it's developed into a very serious situation, right decision.

DDC1990

The Kerry Senior Football Team v Galway AFL Round 4 Sunday 25th February 2018

1 Brian Kelly Killarney Legion

2 Shane Enright Tarbert

3 Jason Foley Ballydonoghue

4 Ronan Shanahan Austin Stacks

5 Paul Murphy Rathmore

6 Peter Crowley Laune Rangers

7 Brian Ó Beaglaoich An Ghaeltacht

8 Jack Barry Na Gaeil

9 Barry O’Sullivan Dingle

10 Micheál Burns (Captain) Dr. Crokes

11 Séan O’Shea Kenmare

12 Stephen O’Brien Kenmare

13 David Clifford Fossa

14 Paul Geaney Dingle

15 Barry John Keane Kerins O’Rahillys

Fir Ionaid:

16 Shane Murphy Dr. Crokes

17 Brendan O’Sullivan Valentia

18 Éanna Ó Conchúir An Ghaeltacht

19 Tom O’Sullivan Dingle

20 Dáithí Casey Dr. Croke

21 Michael Geaney Dingle

22 Killian Spillane Templenoe

23 Matthew Flaherty Dingle

24 Brian Ó Seanacháin Ballydonoghue

25 Fionn Fitzgerald Dr. Crokes

26 Mark Griffin St Michaels/Foilmore

27 Jack Savage Kerins O’Rahillys

28 Cormac Coffey Kerins O’Rahillys

Claregaafan18

Big news that the Corn Ui Mhuiri final between PCD and Tralee CBS due to take place tomorrow has been called off due to "unforeseen circumstances".

Details of the re-fixture will be announced early next week.

The_Honeybadger

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

So if the championship was to start on Sunday who would you pick from the recent league games ?

Murphy over Kelly in goals ?

Foley over Griffin ?

Brian Beaglah on the wing instead of Young ?

I'd definitely have O' Shea in the half forward line over M. Geaney or Walsh.

Not sure about anyone else.

If championship starts Sunday I’d go with

Murphy (Just)
O’Beaglaoich, Foley, Enright
G. Crowley, P. Crowley, Murphy
Barry, Moran
Burns, O’Shea, O’Brien
Clifford, Geaney, JOD

You could switch people and put Morley, Shanahan or Tom O’Sullivan in at 2, 5 or 6 without weakening the team, Morley will probably be in the half back line come the summer tbh. Things could change a lot when everyone is back and a few games under their belt.

JOD is the big question, if he could get back fit and anywhere near his form of years ago we are a different team. Really hope he gets back on track this year it must be soul destroying for him.

There’s 7 players above that weren’t starting last year which would be a huge turnover. There will be a lot of pressure on Eamon to keep the young lads on the team now, unless they tank completely during the rest of the league. Either way the experience they have gained will be very valuable in the years to come.

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Boom__Boom wrote: »

There will be unholy war if Fitzmaurice reverts to the older guys en masse for the championship.

Still a fair bit of disgruntlement around the place over last year.

So if the championship was to start on Sunday who would you pick from the recent league games ?

Murphy over Kelly in goals ?

Foley over Griffin ?

Brian Beaglah on the wing instead of Young ?

I'd definitely have O' Shea in the half forward line over M. Geaney or Walsh.

Not sure about anyone else.

DDC1990

Great effort from Murphy to be fair.

Boom__Boom

D'Agger wrote: »

Enter Mikey Geaney, stage right

There will be unholy war if Fitzmaurice reverts to the older guys en masse for the championship.

Still a fair bit of disgruntlement around the place over last year.

Boom__Boom

munster87 wrote: »

Think Gavin Crowley will have a big year, missing as well yesterday?

I knew there was someone I was forgetting.

Crash Bang Wall wrote: »

Would also say that the pen was a great tackle by the keeper.....knocked the ball out of his hands first.....the tangle after is irrelevant for me

In fairness O'Rourke agrees with you.

http://examiner.ie/sport/gaa/malachy-orourke-admits-penalty-call-was-harsh-on-kerry-467328.html

Crash Bang Wall

tanko wrote: »

Looked well wide on TV also.

Would also say that the pen was a great tackle by the keeper.....knocked the ball out of his hands first.....the tangle after is irrelevant for me

DDC1990

Having been at the match there was very little niggle to be fair to both sides.

A few shoulders after scores (Clifford on Kerr) or after winning frees (Wylie on Geaney) but played in really good spirit.

The red card was for Kerr lashing out at Clifford into the stomach. Clifford was standing in front of him blocking him from running short for the kickout. Kerry forwards had been holding their men to stop the short kickout. Kerr just punched Clifford in the gut. Really wasn't anything dangerous or nasty. Seen plenty of our lads do the same and see the line.

I've seen a dirty side to Monaghan before. Even last year in Killarney there was awful shenanigans. But this year I'd have no complaints.

Ref was all over the shop though. Mad for pick ups off the ground (one on O'Brien was a good 30cm off the ground - but the Enright one was correct.). Didn't mind 3 players practically sitting on a player in posession (happened both sides). Barry John was shouldered in the chest and got no free. Then in the second half he broke through a tackle, kicked wide and got a free for nothing.

Wouldn't argue with the penalty. Murphy got the ball but also took the ankles out. Penalty for me. However the opposite call was made on James O'Donoghue vs Kildare in the quarter final a few years back. Goalkeeper slapped the ball, took James out but it was called play on.

Redsoxfan

Where did I complain?

Tombo2001

Redsoxfan wrote: »

No better team than Monaghan to get under your skin.

Any championship I've seen involving Monaghan has featured Conor McManus being double marked, constantly fouled, niggled, and the QF last year an opposition player face down on the ground until the ref gave him a yellow card for really nothing at all; nothing about it in the papers the next day, unlike the penalty yesterday. They have one outstanding player and he's probably been fouled more than any other player in the country in the past five years. Bit much complaining when they do the same back.

D'Agger

ciarriaithuaidh wrote: »

No point throwing up speculative teams now, but if Fitzmaurice doesn't lose the plot and go back to starting players who we know aren't up to it, then there could be a fresh looking Kerry team taking the field yet this year.

Enter Mikey Geaney, stage right

Prop Joe

Decent performance considering the lack of midfield options,Good to see this thread busy again prefer it to the "monitored" forum

munster87

Boom__Boom wrote: »

At first glance it looked wide but I think it was a curler.

Key thing for me is that there are younger lads clearly turning in performances of the the sort that says they want to be involved come the summer. Also some (just some) of the mistakes being made by the newer lads are the type I would put in the category of learning mistakes - lads doing things you would get away with in club matches but you don't at intercounty level - you'd imagine that they will learn from these.

The missing list today was as follows by my reckoning

1 Tadhg Morley
2 Fionn Fitzgerald
3 Mark Griffin
4 Kevin McCarthy
5 Darran O'Sullivan
6 Gavin White
7 Anthony Maher
8 David Moran
9 Johnny Buckley
10 Donnchadh Walsh
11 Kieran Donaghy
12 James O'Donoghue

Played 3rd level finals yesterday.
13 Jack Barry
14 Barry O’Sullivan
15 Brian Ó Seanacháin
16 Matthew Flaherty
17 Cormac Coffey

Think Gavin Crowley will have a big year, missing as well yesterday?

ciarriaithuaidh

Boom__Boom wrote: »

At first glance it looked wide but I think it was a curler.

Key thing for me is that there are younger lads clearly turning in performances of the the sort that says they want to be involved come the summer. Also some (just some) of the mistakes being made by the newer lads are the type I would put in the category of learning mistakes - lads doing things you would get away with in club matches but you don't at intercounty level - you'd imagine that they will learn from these.

The missing list today was as follows by my reckoning

1 Tadhg Morley
2 Fionn Fitzgerald
3 Mark Griffin
4 Kevin McCarthy
5 Darran O'Sullivan
6 Gavin White
7 Anthony Maher
8 David Moran
9 Johnny Buckley
10 Donnchadh Walsh
11 Kieran Donaghy
12 James O'Donoghue

Played 3rd level finals yesterday.
13 Jack Barry
14 Barry O’Sullivan
15 Brian Ó Seanacháin
16 Matthew Flaherty
17 Cormac Coffey

Of the players you mentioned above I think: Morley, Griffin, Darran, Gavin White, Dave Moran, Johnny Buckley, Jameso, Jack Barry are players that will seriously push for starting positions. Can't write off Donnacha and Donaghy either but to be honest, I'd be slightly worried if they were both regular starters this year.

I think, despite my distrust of Fitzmaurices judgement there is a lot to be hopeful about IF injuries and fitness don't impinge on the squad. (As an aside, I see Tim Murphy the Chairman on the line wearing an earpiece today - what the hell is going on there?!)

Not just on the game in Monaghan, but having seen them play a lot I would think that Jason Foley, Brian Begley, Micheál Burns, Seán O'Shea, David Clifford, Eanna O'Conchúir, Daithi Casey could all make meaningful contributions this year. There are others like Barry Dan, Killian Spillane, Shane Murphy (poor day today but has never been under this pressure before, will see how he reacts) and a few others who don't convince me right now but could prove themselves in time.
No point throwing up speculative teams now, but if Fitzmaurice doesn't lose the plot and go back to starting players who we know aren't up to it, then there could be a fresh looking Kerry team taking the field yet this year.

Redsoxfan

mystic86 wrote:

Monaghan clearly wanted to take Geaney's threat away by engaging him in constant verbals and handbags (pushing etc.) off the ball and in fairness Geaney seemed to step up to it and give it back like he was proud to do so, without realising, it seemed, that it was exactly what Monaghan wanted him to do.

No better team than Monaghan to get under your skin.

The White Feather

Bit of trouble in the Kerry Ladies Football camp with the chairperson and secretary resigning

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/kerry-lgfa-chairman-and-secretary-resign-after-management-controversy-828673.html

Boom__Boom

DDC1990 wrote: »

Monaghan's 4th point looked clearly wide as well. Not sure what it looked like on TV.

At first glance it looked wide but I think it was a curler.

Key thing for me is that there are younger lads clearly turning in performances of the the sort that says they want to be involved come the summer. Also some (just some) of the mistakes being made by the newer lads are the type I would put in the category of learning mistakes - lads doing things you would get away with in club matches but you don't at intercounty level - you'd imagine that they will learn from these.

The missing list today was as follows by my reckoning

1 Tadhg Morley
2 Fionn Fitzgerald
3 Mark Griffin
4 Kevin McCarthy
5 Darran O'Sullivan
6 Gavin White
7 Anthony Maher
8 David Moran
9 Johnny Buckley
10 Donnchadh Walsh
11 Kieran Donaghy
12 James O'Donoghue

Played 3rd level finals yesterday.
13 Jack Barry
14 Barry O’Sullivan
15 Brian Ó Seanacháin
16 Matthew Flaherty
17 Cormac Coffey

mystic86

Monaghan clearly wanted to take Geaney's threat away by engaging him in constant verbals and handbags (pushing etc.) off the ball and in fairness Geaney seemed to step up to it and give it back like he was proud to do so, without realising, it seemed, that it was exactly what Monaghan wanted him to do.

tanko

DDC1990 wrote: »

Monaghan's 4th point looked clearly wide as well. Not sure what it looked like on TV.

Looked well wide on TV also.

DDC1990

Monaghan's 4th point looked clearly wide as well. Not sure what it looked like on TV.

munster87

Really impressed with the work rate from Sean O Shea through-out. He was the one big positive for me today.

DDC1990

Poor first half cost us. Great fightback and Monaghan were there for the taking but a draw would have been tough on Monaghan.

Cormac Reilly a disaster for both sides. Awful incosistant.

Brendan O'Sullivan awful poor. Jack Savage had a poor game. Andrew Barry had a difficult game.

Seanie Shea and Burns were very good. Clifford came on and caused trouble. Wrong option a couple of times but physically well able. Got a punch in the gut which saw his marker sent off.

Eanna O'Connor made a huge difference in midfield when he came on. Big prospect for the future.

Needed a bit more from the more experienced heads up front when the game got tight. Some poor decisions.

Murphy and Begley decent again. S. O'Brien did an immense amount of running and was really dangerous.

Big mistake from Fitzmaurice not to start DaithÃ Casey IMO. Our attacks in the first half were very slow.

Will rue missed goal chance for Geaney and idiotic frees given away for pushing in the back etc.

Shane Murphy was very poor from kickouts. Gave Monaghan some very easy chances straight from kickouts. I wonder if its time to go back to Kelly. Nothing he could do for the penalty though.

Very difficult conditions to play in. Extremely wet and heavy. Took us till the second half to cop on really.

Enjoyable game but I feel like we wont be in the mix for a League Final by the end of the Dublin match.

I'd expect Galway and Dublin to have too much for us.

DDC1990

Wet day in Monaghan. Another good test for the young lads.

DDC1990

Good weekend for the Kerry lads playing Sigerson/Trench Cup with UCD and Mary I winning.

Now give them a fecking rest!

Jack Barry, Barry O'Sullivan, Brian O'Seannachain and Tom Leo O'Sullivan for UCD (Tom Leo didn't play today AFAIK)
Matthew Flaherty and Cormac Coffey for Mary I (plus 5 other Kerry club players on the team).

The_Honeybadger

It’s the same team as last week by the looks of it, probably because they’ll use last weeks programme rather than print new ones. No chance those college lads will be made play. Brendan O’Sullivan and A.N Other in midfield. Hopefully Casey and Barry start and take their chance.