amdublin wrote: » What in God's earth are you on about. And I notice you evaded the points made about butting out of women's uteruses. Are you trying to equate a woman's womb with a house? Women are not houses. Women are not incubators for babies. Womens role on earth is not to grow babies for society. Abortion is a private matter. Why can't you trust women and stop trying to make their role in society as growing babies.
amdublin wrote: » Good point So so unsafe And emotionally horrific. What will it take? Someone to die after taking one of these tablets to bring on an abortion. alone and scared, bleeding, and afraid to go to a hospital. These pills should only be taken under the auspices of a doctor/proper healthcare. I love Ireland but my god sometimes it's a bad place/sometimes we put our citizens in such bad place/treat our women awfully.
eviltwin wrote: » Women have died and those pro life folks don't care. It's all about control.
Sandor Clegane wrote: » Maybe im living in a cave but is it likely to be changed? I'll personally vote in favor anyway.
Lavinia wrote: » Gonna vote yes. Not that Id do it personally but can see valid reasons in variety of circumstances when it should be available. Now surely there will be those who may misuse this option but that's on their soul. To 'cure' the later the solution lays in education, may be the slow process but only viable in long term.
Lavinia wrote: » Now surely there will be those who may misuse this option but that's on their soul. To 'cure' the later the solution lays in education, may be the slow process but only viable in long term.
amdublin wrote: » Irish abortions happen every day. In England. The debate changes nothing other than the location. It would be great if the other side would remove their noses out of our bedrooms and women's reproductive organs. It is not anyone's place to dictate to another woman what they do or don't do with a 12 week old foetus that is in their body.
eviltwin wrote: » I think the point she's making is that legal abortion here won't affect the pro life voters, they will be upset by the outcome but that's about it. It's the women who need abortion, the women in our maternity system who will continue to suffer the consequences
eviltwin wrote: » Women have died and those pro life kunts don't care. It's all about control.
2wsxcde3 wrote: Future women will be scared for life having gone through this process which they wont have been told the full truth about beforehand by the pro-choicers. And of course, none of these women will be allowed tell their story in the media. They will be hidden away in the new hidden Ireland. Women who want to tell the truth about the horror of an abortion must be kept quiet.
2wsxcde3 wrote: » The "slow process" will be that 3 and 4 years olds in Ireland today will grow up in an Ireland where abortion is normalized. This will result in more and more women having an abortion as a means of contraception (as has happened in the UK, 1 in 5 pregnancies results in an abortion) and its often only when they have that abortion, be it a pill in the home, that they realize that the "clump of cells" they thought was inside them was actually a fully recognizable little human being complete with arms, legs and a head. Future women will be scared for life having gone through this process which they wont have been told the full truth about beforehand by the pro-choicers. And of course, none of these women will be allowed tell their story in the media. They will be hidden away in the new hidden Ireland. Women who want to tell the truth about the horror of an abortion must be kept quiet.
Wombatman wrote: » Will you go way with that nonsence. 95% of women in the U.S., who get an abortion, don't regret it. You are the one not telling the full truth. I would say the majority of women who are forced carry to full term with a known fatal defect regret it. Currently Irish women who have had abortion keep quite because of the likes of you.
2wsxcde3 wrote: » Those are skewed statistics in favor of the pro-choice position. We've had X and Y cases here. But what no one wants mentioned is the fact that the C case woman regretted having the abortion she fought to have:C-Case mum: I grieve for my lost baby every day (Source: https://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/health/ccase-mum-i-grieve-for-my-lost-baby-every-day-29241584.html ) ...and surprise surprise, the C case woman was attacked by the pro-choice side for coming out and admitting this:Ivana Bacik insults 'C' Case woman who regrets abortion, claims she was "manipulated"Ivana Bacik, the pro-choice/pro-abortion Labour Senator who has called for the abortion debate to be conducted "in a respectful and dignified fashion" has brought the level of debate to a new low by insulting the rape victim who was the subject of the C Case in 1997 and subsequently expressed regret at having an abortion. (Source: http://www.politics.ie/forum/labour/202773-ivana-bacik-insults-c-case-woman-who-regrets-abortion-claims-she-manipulated.html )
Andrew Beef wrote: » There is something very disturbing about a woman who is neither upset nor regretful about ending the life of her unborn child. The most salient and shocking statistic for me, however, is that 1 in 5 pregnancies in the UK end in an abortion. I find that astonishing; it effectively means that abortion is being used as a method of contraception. Is that the road we want our society to go down?
pleas advice wrote: » dehumanising the fetus, demonising the pro life as backwards, hate-filled misogynists, religious control freaks, just so you can avoid, not even accepting the fact that the fetus is a living, human entity, but avoid accepting the fact that a sizeable minority of the population view it as such... is it any wonder that theres so few pro life posting, if they're jumped on and hounded out of the thread for even opening their mouths
swampgas wrote: » Andrew Beef wrote: » There is something very disturbing about a woman who is neither upset nor regretful about ending the life of her unborn child. The most salient and shocking statistic for me, however, is that 1 in 5 pregnancies in the UK end in an abortion. I find that astonishing; it effectively means that abortion is being used as a method of contraception. Is that the road we want our society to go down? You just don't get it - Irish women are already having abortions, and have had for decades, just not in this country. And on top of that, the Irish people voted in a referendum to guarantee that they could keep travelling abroad to have abortions. You can be as disturbed as you like, and as shocked as you like, about how women who are pregnant don't share your values and don't make the same decisions as you might, but the fact is that Irish women need safe abortion services in their own country.
Andrew Beef wrote: » With the greatest respect, no they don’t. If women want to end the lives of their unborn children, they should be compelled to travel overseas.
2wsxcde3 wrote: » I'm voting no. Irish women (and men) deserve better than being brainwashed by the far left into thinking abortion is an "good" "empowering" thing.
swampgas wrote: » You just don't get it - Irish women are already having abortions, and have had for decades, just not in this country. And on top of that, the Irish people voted in a referendum to guarantee that they could keep travelling abroad to have abortions. You can be as disturbed as you like, and as shocked as you like, about how women who are pregnant don't share your values and don't make the same decisions as you might, but the fact is that Irish women need safe abortion services in their own country.
2wsxcde3 wrote: » Those are skewed statistics in favor of the pro-choice position.
