Authorities also said students and teachers should remain barricaded in the school until they could be reached by police Dispatch at the Broward Sheriff’s Office confirmed the school was on lockdown and police were on location. According to WSVN, the Margate Fire Rescue team described the scene as a mass casualty incident, which reportedly means at least 20 people were injured.
degsie wrote: » Funny to think that irish people are critical of american gun use when this very state was born out of violence.
BattleCorp wrote: » A buyback wouldn't work for the same reason that grandfathering won't work. + 300,000,000 firearms already in circulation and the Government haven't a clue who has most of them. We have rights here in Ireland. I'd say most Irish people would be up in arms (no pun intended) if any of them were taken away. I know I don't want any of my Constitutional rights taken away. Most Americans wouldn't be in favour of giving up any of their rights either. The right to own a gun is one of those rights that they don't want to give up. And as the law stands, that's their right.
Akrasia wrote: » That's one way of doing it, another way is a ban and compulsory buyback. Grandfathering wont work when there ate already massive stockpiles of these weapons floating around If you would refuse to give up illegal firearms you can hardly call yourself law abiding then
BattleCorp wrote: » They don't make them illegal. They stop issuing new licences. It's called grandfathering. They did it here in Ireland with centrefire pistols in 2009. If you already had one, you could keep it but no new licences were given out. Here in Ireland, yes I would give them back if they were made illegal. I would also expect compensation from the Government for the loss of my sporting equipment. But we aren't talking about Ireland. There is no right to any kind of firearm here. If I was in America I probably wouldn't give up my firearms because I'd be giving up my right to have them.
Akrasia wrote: » Would you hand back those guns after they are no longer legal?
BattleCorp wrote: » How do you know that someone who buys an AR15 the day after a school shooting is the type of person who shouldn't be allowed within a country mile of a firearm? What evidence are you basing that on? I've 7 firearms, all licenced, all used for totally legal purposes (target shooting), and if I thought a certain type of gun I was thinking of getting was going to be banned, then I'd go out and get one before the ban. That doesn't make me a school shooter or a nut job or someone who shouldn't be allowed near firearms. Americans should have a right to healthcare but that's absolutely nothing to do with the right to own a gun.
Billy86 wrote: » Complete guess since it's hard to tell, but I'd reckon he may be partly Hispanic - I think someone mentioned the boxer Canelo Alvarez earlier who is Mexican:
Akrasia wrote: » Yeah, all these 'law abiding citizens' who rush out to buy guns in case they will be made illegal later on. The kind of people who rush out to buy an AR15 the day after a school shooting are exactly the type of people who shouldn't be allowed within a country mile of a firearm. America where you have a 'right' to own a gun, but not a right to healthcare
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » He was adopted. Cruz is his adopted name.
Herb Powell wrote: » The response to this seems to be different than usual. I'm happy to see lots of people, especially young people, starting to say enough is enough and calling out the NRA bull****. There's a nationwide school walkout being organised. Fair play, and hopefully they continue to push for change.
Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: » He looks Spanish - Eastern European to me.
BattleCorp wrote: » Obama wanted tighter gun control. Under Obama gun sales went through the roof. Trump wants looser gun control. Under Trump gun sales have dropped. Vote gun supporter Trump if you want less guns. Strange but true.
Manic Moran wrote: » However, they are not in the US, they don't have the US's societal problems leading to our own levels of criminal behaviour, and they don't already have some 300mil firearms in circulation which cannot be simply legislated into non-existence.
Manic Moran wrote: » You realise in your first question that you are dumping absolutely every single form of mental health issue together? You are equating someone with dyslexia or agoraphobia with someone who is a raving psychotic. You can have a mental impairment which Social Security may feel will affect your ability to control your finances, and not be in any way a threat to public safety, which is precisely why the various disability advocacy and civil rights groups opposed the implementation of the rule and supported the repeal. That is a separate question to the third. I, too, would be curious to see what proposal Trump or the Republicans come up with to address the issue of mental health in general, and firearms safety with mental health specifically.
Chrongen wrote: » Missed it completely, didn't you.
muppetshow1451 wrote: » The latter who adore boxing gloves wasnt known for being the brightest either.
Chrongen wrote: » Let's face it When it comes to this kind of discussion there are two types of people. Those who see guns as tools of death AND Those who see them as something to be likened to motorbikes or enhanced double D cups. Something to be posed with and lusted after. The latter who adore weaponry rarely have a pair of boxing gloves in their arsenal.
BattleCorp wrote: » If your interpretation was correct, do you not think all the eminent legal eagles in America would have twigged your point already?
JupiterKid wrote: The only comment I'll pass on this thread is that those who defend and/or apologists for the deeply sick gun culture in the USA have a deeply warped sense of perspective of what is the right thing to do.
Christy42 wrote: » So then why did Trump reverse Obama's legislation? Why is he letting people he feels are dangerous run around with guns? Why is Trump (or the Republicans) not promising legislation with regards to this?
riffmongous wrote: » Switzerland is a unique case though, as the military service also helps with the identification of people who might have mental issues so these people are not going to be allowed to possess weapons
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