Authorities also said students and teachers should remain barricaded in the school until they could be reached by police Dispatch at the Broward Sheriff’s Office confirmed the school was on lockdown and police were on location. According to WSVN, the Margate Fire Rescue team described the scene as a mass casualty incident, which reportedly means at least 20 people were injured.
Chrongen wrote: » Missed it completely, didn't you.
Manic Moran wrote: » You realise in your first question that you are dumping absolutely every single form of mental health issue together? You are equating someone with dyslexia or agoraphobia with someone who is a raving psychotic. You can have a mental impairment which Social Security may feel will affect your ability to control your finances, and not be in any way a threat to public safety, which is precisely why the various disability advocacy and civil rights groups opposed the implementation of the rule and supported the repeal. That is a separate question to the third. I, too, would be curious to see what proposal Trump or the Republicans come up with to address the issue of mental health in general, and firearms safety with mental health specifically.
Manic Moran wrote: » However, they are not in the US, they don't have the US's societal problems leading to our own levels of criminal behaviour, and they don't already have some 300mil firearms in circulation which cannot be simply legislated into non-existence.
BattleCorp wrote: » Obama wanted tighter gun control. Under Obama gun sales went through the roof. Trump wants looser gun control. Under Trump gun sales have dropped. Vote gun supporter Trump if you want less guns. Strange but true.
Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: » He looks Spanish - Eastern European to me.
Herb Powell wrote: » The response to this seems to be different than usual. I'm happy to see lots of people, especially young people, starting to say enough is enough and calling out the NRA bull****. There's a nationwide school walkout being organised. Fair play, and hopefully they continue to push for change.
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » He was adopted. Cruz is his adopted name.
Akrasia wrote: » Yeah, all these 'law abiding citizens' who rush out to buy guns in case they will be made illegal later on. The kind of people who rush out to buy an AR15 the day after a school shooting are exactly the type of people who shouldn't be allowed within a country mile of a firearm. America where you have a 'right' to own a gun, but not a right to healthcare
Billy86 wrote: » Complete guess since it's hard to tell, but I'd reckon he may be partly Hispanic - I think someone mentioned the boxer Canelo Alvarez earlier who is Mexican:
BattleCorp wrote: » How do you know that someone who buys an AR15 the day after a school shooting is the type of person who shouldn't be allowed within a country mile of a firearm? What evidence are you basing that on? I've 7 firearms, all licenced, all used for totally legal purposes (target shooting), and if I thought a certain type of gun I was thinking of getting was going to be banned, then I'd go out and get one before the ban. That doesn't make me a school shooter or a nut job or someone who shouldn't be allowed near firearms. Americans should have a right to healthcare but that's absolutely nothing to do with the right to own a gun.
Akrasia wrote: » Would you hand back those guns after they are no longer legal?
BattleCorp wrote: » They don't make them illegal. They stop issuing new licences. It's called grandfathering. They did it here in Ireland with centrefire pistols in 2009. If you already had one, you could keep it but no new licences were given out. Here in Ireland, yes I would give them back if they were made illegal. I would also expect compensation from the Government for the loss of my sporting equipment. But we aren't talking about Ireland. There is no right to any kind of firearm here. If I was in America I probably wouldn't give up my firearms because I'd be giving up my right to have them.
Akrasia wrote: » That's one way of doing it, another way is a ban and compulsory buyback. Grandfathering wont work when there ate already massive stockpiles of these weapons floating around If you would refuse to give up illegal firearms you can hardly call yourself law abiding then
degsie wrote: » Funny to think that irish people are critical of american gun use when this very state was born out of violence.
BattleCorp wrote: » A buyback wouldn't work for the same reason that grandfathering won't work. + 300,000,000 firearms already in circulation and the Government haven't a clue who has most of them. We have rights here in Ireland. I'd say most Irish people would be up in arms (no pun intended) if any of them were taken away. I know I don't want any of my Constitutional rights taken away. Most Americans wouldn't be in favour of giving up any of their rights either. The right to own a gun is one of those rights that they don't want to give up. And as the law stands, that's their right.
Akrasia wrote: » Dozens of innocent children slaughtered every year. A ban on military grade weapons and a register of all firearms would be a very reasonable facilitation to allow sports shooting and personal protection while reducing the risk of lone nutters with high capacity weapons of war
BattleCorp wrote: » An AR15 isn't a military grade firearm. It really isn't. I've no problem with guns being registered and I've no problems with background checks either. But I'm not in America nor am I an American. If Americans are allowed guns to protect themselves against a tyrannical government, then it makes sense that the government shouldn't know where the guns are. I don't agree with that but some people do.
Chrongen wrote: » 3 mass shootings in the US since Wednesday. One on Oklahoma, one in Kansas and one in Tennesee. Let's see what tomorrow brings.
Akrasia wrote: » But you are prepared to pander to a small number of extremists half of whom think the Holocaust never happened or that it did happen but was a good idea
Manic Moran wrote: » Chrongen wrote: » 3 mass shootings in the US since Wednesday. One on Oklahoma, one in Kansas and one in Tennesee. Let's see what tomorrow brings. According to the mass shooting tracker. (Unsurprisingly, there is one) Oklahoma, 1 Killed, three injured. Known gang member conducted a home invasion, shot four in the house. Killed the 66-year old. Tennessee . Five injured. Incident outside of nightclub, no further info. Kansas. One dead, seven injured. Two gangs had a disagreement. Can’t argue the nightclub thing, but the other two were very blatantly criminal actions, not spree shootings.
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