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The Last Word

liam7831

Lads, Matt does a great job a real pro, but jebus the amount of ads these days are really starting to piss me off.

And the crappy traffic reports, does anyone listen to this crap, its the same traffic jams on the same roads every day for the last 10 years

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pjohnson

quintana76 wrote: »

Yes Cathy Newman. Strawman argument.

And you criticised peoples debate skills :pac:

quintana76

pjohnson wrote: »

Michael Walsh would be your preference then? Cal Thomas too liberal aswell I'd say.

Yes Cathy Newman. Strawman argument.

pjohnson

JoeA3 wrote: »

I love Cal Thomas. The best contributor to the show by some distance - although that’s a relatively easy feat tbf. Best contributor and Matt is constantly poking at him and ridiculing his opinions. I’m waiting for the day Cal to tell Matt to shove his snowflakes where the sun doesn’t shine.

I too like Cal but he does sometimes come out with nonsense.

Theres way more snowflakes emerging taking offence to Matt. He stopped indulging the #metoo crap and the likes but you'd swear he is just reading thejournal headlines going by the whinging here.

dominatinMC

newcavanman wrote: »

Its always the same these days. Whenever he has the Whinge, that is Marian Mckeowan, on the show they are like a double act. A few months ago, Michael Walsh was on when there was another anti Trump special on. He tore Mckeowan apart, and exposed her Clinton adoration for what it was, a misplaced teenage crush over Hilary Clinton
Since the demise of the Right Hook, drivetime radio had become a chore. You find yourself listening to Cooper, and earlier in the afternoon, his twin, Ray, justto reassure yourself azthat they really are this bad

I think you hit the nail on the head here, and I wouldn't restrict your statement to drivetime radio either. Irish radio, in general, has become so homogeneous in the last few years, that it is difficult to distinguish one show from another. Matt Cooper, Drivetime, Pat Kenny, etc. they are all singing off the same liberal hymn sheet. It's almost as if the dissenting voices have been quashed. Now, I don't agree with everything George Hook has to say but, at least, he is different, and expresses different views than those of every other presenter on Irish radio!

Some other poster on here questioned why Matt has so many Journal.ie "journalists" contributing to his show - I believe the reason is that they share the same agenda and viewpoints as Matt and there is no disagreement - ultimately leading to one big echo chamber. There is no doubt that Matt has gone down the liberal, PC route in recent times, but surely he must realise his duty, as a journalist and presenter, is to allow both sides of an argument to be given in a neutal, partisan, and unbiased manner. Then let a debate flow naturally. Instead, these days, he is coming across as much too single-minded, and obvious in his stance.

JoeA3

I love Cal Thomas. The best contributor to the show by some distance - although that’s a relatively easy feat tbf. Best contributor and Matt is constantly poking at him and ridiculing his opinions. I’m waiting for the day Cal to tell Matt to shove his snowflakes where the sun doesn’t shine.

quintana76

pjohnson wrote: »

Michael Walsh would be your preference then? Cal Thomas too liberal aswell I'd say.

Cal Thomas represents the original ideal of the programme to have a bit of balance of opinion. Long gone. Even when he is on Marion McKeown is interrupting him all the time.
Matt has over the last year or so become very partisan. Would have thought his role was that of a neutral arbitrator between the guests not a cheerleader for anti Trump rhetoric and other liberal causes.

jimmyw

I agree with most views on here. It's so refreshing listening to "Dr Ruari Hanley " speaking on various health related subjects with no BS. Just tells it straight. So lacking these days on Irish radio these days. I am actually surprised he has someone like him on, as most other guests are of the PC kind.

pjohnson

quintana76 wrote: »

There is plenty of fawning going on. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama comes to mind. The Last Word has become like a liberal Infowars on certain issues. Someone should have a word with Matt because it is becoming increasingly tiresome and unlistenable. Even that may be impossible as all his colleagues probably have the same compulsory luvvie opinions.

Michael Walsh would be your preference then? Cal Thomas too liberal aswell I'd say.

quintana76

pjohnson wrote: »

Biggest problem Matt seems to have is he doesn't fawn over every word Trump says. I'm sure FOX have some online radio that could cater to those desires.

There is plenty of fawning going on. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama comes to mind. The Last Word has become like a liberal Infowars on certain issues. Someone should have a word with Matt because it is becoming increasingly tiresome and unlistenable. Even that may be impossible as all his colleagues probably have the same compulsory luvvie opinions.

pjohnson

Biggest problem Matt seems to have is he doesn't fawn over every word Trump says. I'm sure FOX have some online radio that could cater to those desires.

NIMAN

neris wrote: »

Was listening to him on Thursday talking about the shooting in Florida and he was getting digs in at Trump at any opportunity. Was real childish broadcasting and his attitude to Trump in general is still like a 5 year old having a tantrum coz they didnt get their way.

There were school shootings before Trump.

You'd think listening to MC the other day Trump handed the guns out to the shooters.

MC was getting overly emotional about it. The Republican idiot from America even told him to calm down!
We all know it was a sad event, but I don't see why a radio host on Irish radio should get so heated about it. Its happened before, it'll happen again and MC ain't going to get guns banned in the US, so he may as well accept it.

As for the quality of the show in general, its gone to the dogs. The standard of contributor is shocking now.

TheDavester

neris wrote: »

Was listening to him on Thursday talking about the shooting in Florida and he was getting digs in at Trump at any opportunity. Was real childish broadcasting and his attitude to Trump in general is still like a 5 year old having a tantrum coz they didnt get their way.

probably thinks the shootings never happened under the Clinton or Obamas administrations...Matt if your reading this your Trump bashing/PC'ness is tiresome...and there has to be anyone else better you can get for your show than the journal.ie "journalists"

newcavanman

neris wrote: »

Was listening to him on Thursday talking about the shooting in Florida and he was getting digs in at Trump at any opportunity. Was real childish broadcasting and his attitude to Trump in general is still like a 5 year old having a tantrum coz they didnt get their way.

Its always the same these days. Whenever he has the Whinge, that is Marian Mckeowan, on the show they are like a double act. A few months ago, Michael Walsh was on when there was another anti Trump special on. He tore Mckeowan apart, and exposed her Clinton adoration for what it was, a misplaced teenage crush over Hilary Clinton
Since the demise of the Right Hook, drivetime radio had become a chore. You find yourself listening to Cooper, and earlier in the afternoon, his twin, Ray, justto reassure yourself azthat they really are this bad

Heckler

I'm no Trump supporter and usually have the last word on coming back from work but Coopers anti-Trump line got old about 6 months ago.

Every opportunity and he'll shoehorn it in somewhere. Its tiresome. We get it Matt, you don't like the guy. Build a bridge and be a bit more objective.

pjohnson

neris wrote: »

Was listening to him on Thursday talking about the shooting in Florida and he was getting digs in at Trump at any opportunity. Was real childish broadcasting and his attitude to Trump in general is still like a 5 year old having a tantrum coz they didnt get their way.

I thought the Walsh fella was abysmal in the "debate". Facts aren't digs

neris

Was listening to him on Thursday talking about the shooting in Florida and he was getting digs in at Trump at any opportunity. Was real childish broadcasting and his attitude to Trump in general is still like a 5 year old having a tantrum coz they didnt get their way.

griffin100

Last night he had an AA traffic announcer and some Hooray Henry type from the Communications Clinic discussing the weeks news - they really not be getting desperate. It sounded exactly what I imagine Instagram would sound like if it could talk.

hullaballoo

Much and all as I dislike Cooper, I've not heard him plug any books or articles constantly... ever. Have heard him mention very occasionally in or around a book launch. But never constantly.

It wouldn't suit his self-narrative anyway, to plug his own work. In fairness to him, he's made a career from being quite understated about his own accomplishments.

I find the faux humility more infuriating than if he was spending 2.5 hours a day selling his warez tbh.

citykat

NIMAN wrote: »

Has he a new book out?

If he has, you're as sure **** to hear about it, 100s of times over.

NIMAN

Has he a new book out?

citykat

Does he have to constantly plug his latest book or article? I don't think there's anybody as bad for it on Irish radio. Makes him sound like a simpleton.

JoeA3

NIMAN wrote: »

The show is 2.5hrs long, I'd be guessing you'd be lucky to get 1 full hour of debate each day.

Speaking of the aforementioned waffle and banter, yesterday evening I heard Matt and the Business guy / “expert” wondering if all UK imported cars are registered here as 181’s? Business expert guy says “Yes Matt, I think so”. WTF.

somesoldiers

The last few days I switched off newstalk only to hear the same person being interviewed by Matt or vice Vera.the Dumping lad today and the court report yesterday, I know they share some stuff but spread it out a bit

somesoldiers

NIMAN

The show is 2.5hrs long, I'd be guessing you'd be lucky to get 1 full hour of debate each day.

JoeA3

NIMAN wrote: »

Well I did an unscientific job today in the car.

He finished a piece at 17:58, think it was the bit about the Ireland 2040 Plan.

Then we had the 6 @ 6, the traffic reports, the weather, the sports news and then the business news...his next actual discussion piece about family cars began at 18:22.

So 25 minutes of repetitive waffle and “banter”. And that was only in one 30 minute segment. The previous hour would have been similar...

NIMAN

NIMAN wrote: »

Someday I am going to time actual discussion/topic time and see what percentage of the show it actually makes up.

Well I did an unscientific job today in the car.

He finished a piece at 17:58, think it was the bit about the Ireland 2040 Plan.

Then we had a quick advert or two, the 6 @ 6, the traffic reports, the weather, the sports news and then the business news...his next actual discussion piece about family cars began at 18:22.

Ursus Horribilis

They had no trouble axing Sam Smyth when he put his head above the parapet. Matt can be a pain in the rear these days but he still has to put bread in the table and raise that large family of his.

TheDavester

robo wrote: »

Hey don't knock the competitions...I've won a good few of them over the past 10 years. Thought my number was blocked for a while until I won another just before Christmas :P

I think its gas the way the over use analysts on the show, take Karl Deeter, he would be on the odd time to discuss mortgages etc but since he got a slot in the Friday interview, he was on twice in the last few days, including the Friday Panel.

Plus I miss the mix of Irish Times contributors, I am very surprised that Matt is allowing this ban on his programme...freedom of speech and all that.

What is notable is the length of the music and TV sections - they used to be around 10 minutes, not they are about a half hour.
Plus would Nadine and John just get it on, the sexual tension is palpable.

Doubt it unless the upper management change of mind, but I agree as the Journal ones and Louise Duffy (she did the movies a few times) and a local sjw/feminist they can get, are frustrating as hell to listen to

robo

NIMAN wrote: »

I was listening to his show a bit today in the car.....by Jesus there is some amount of filler on that show....adverts, competitions, weather, umpteen traffic reports....

Someday I am going to time actual discussion/topic time and see what percentage of the show it actually makes up.

Hey don't knock the competitions...I've won a good few of them over the past 10 years. Thought my number was blocked for a while until I won another just before Christmas :P

I think its gas the way the over use analysts on the show, take Karl Deeter, he would be on the odd time to discuss mortgages etc but since he got a slot in the Friday interview, he was on twice in the last few days, including the Friday Panel.

Plus I miss the mix of Irish Times contributors, I am very surprised that Matt is allowing this ban on his programme...freedom of speech and all that.

What is notable is the length of the music and TV sections - they used to be around 10 minutes, not they are about a half hour.
Plus would Nadine and John just get it on, the sexual tension is palpable.