Authorities also said students and teachers should remain barricaded in the school until they could be reached by police Dispatch at the Broward Sheriff’s Office confirmed the school was on lockdown and police were on location. According to WSVN, the Margate Fire Rescue team described the scene as a mass casualty incident, which reportedly means at least 20 people were injured.
Homebird18 wrote: Ok but again why would the shooter not engage the ALO and use the weapon on full auto as opposed to semi auto as heard in the video?
Hitman3000 wrote: » Sorry to post your comment again. The Irish army has the Steyr Aug configured for single shot eventhough it is automatic( one of several weapons I trained with). Achieved by a button incorporated in the trigger so not hard at all as you suggest.
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Hitman3000 wrote: » You assume wrong. Sustained fire is 12 to 15 a minute it's not fully auto. It still begs the question of need for a civilian population to access to what is essentially a military weapon.
joeysoap wrote: When you say here, where do you mean?
Homebird18 wrote: I assume you mean 12 to 15 a second. Even still the shots in the videos are not from an automatic weapon, if you served your time you will know how difficult it is to get an automatic weapon to fire single bursts as heard in the videos. I fired an AR15 in Florida not to long ago but it was chambered to fire 9mm rounds at a semi rate so there's another possibility.
Cookie_Monster wrote: how and why given you said the sole purpose of a gun is to inflict harm or death? Clearly it's not the sole purpose, so stop being obtuse about it.
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Hitman3000 wrote: » Guns were invented for the sole purpose of killing, target pistols and sport rifles are a different matter.
Panjandrums wrote: » The use of a motorized vehicle can be changed to inflict harm as we found out in Nice. Just like the use of a gun can change, sport and leisure.
Hitman3000 wrote: » One of the weapons allegedly used was an AR 15 it can fire 12 to 15 rounds a minute similar to the M16.
E mac wrote: » https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/feb/13/remington-bankruptcy-guns-trump-slump-sales Obama= gun sales surge Trump = gun sales decline....
Cookie_Monster wrote: Guns have multiple purposes, most of them designed to kill animals or indeed people, but not all, no more than all knives or drugs being designed solely to inflict harm or death
Homebird18 wrote: I agree 100% that there is no need for a civilian to own a fully functioning automatic weapon. I could be wrong but the weapon used in the shooting sounds semi auto to me, so there you go its not that hard to inflict multiple casulties, i still believe high volume mahazines need to be addressed.
Hitman3000 wrote: » Whataboutery doesn't change the fact that the sole purpose of a gun is to inflict harm or death. Although considering the idiocy of some people. Thinning the herd may not be a bad idea.
Hitman3000 wrote: » Are they using AR 15's?
Hitman3000 wrote: » I think you will find it is quite hard to kill a great number of people with a single action weapon. No fixation tbh, just curious as to why civilians need access to military grade weaponry? Like hunting ducks with an M16 or AR15 seems a bit extreme.
Homebird18 wrote: Why are you fixated on automatic weapons? Mass shootings involving automatic weapons account for a very small percentage of overall gun murders in the US? They dont help of course.
Hitman3000 wrote: » Enlighten me how many target or competition guns were used to carry out mass shootings in the US since 2013. The target guns they use in the Olympics or sport shooting are not automatic assault rifles. Nice try though.
ceadaoin. wrote: » Just put on CNN there it's pretty disgusting the coverage IMO. Parents of students on the phone live reading out the texts they are getting and saying where the kids are hiding and how many are there. The reporter acting concerned while trying to milk as much information out of them as possible. What is wrong with people? I mean, if that was my child it wouldn't occur to me to call the news. Ffs
Cookie_Monster wrote: » how about tackling the US culture, since it's the actual problem, not guns. how many other first world countries allow reasonably free access to firearms and have nothing even close to the same problems? The issue here is Americans, not guns** - availability of certain rapid fire weapons undoubtedly is a problem as well though Interestingly gun sales and ownership rates have collapsed recently, so much so Remington has gone bankrupt this week
