expectationlost wrote: » its their website (reg needed) poll, a facebook poll and a twitter poll all added together obviously not stringent enough to report on by anyone else, no matter what you view theres no justifying putting this poll on the front page of a newspaper at all
NuMarvel wrote: » The Pro Life Campaign group campaigned for a No vote in the referendum on the 13th Amendment, but you don't hear anything it from them now.
captbarnacles wrote: » Do Iona oppose the right to travel?
Loafing Oaf wrote: » The thing is, it's their own cause their hurting in the long run by deluding themselves about the strength of their position. There seems to be a narrative emerging among the pro-lifers that even if the referendum and the 12-week legislation pass, the proposed abortion regime will never come into effect because there won't be enough GPs to make it work. Nitpicking about the details of this survey's methodology will help to sustain that narrative, but if it turns out to be a false hope...
erica74 wrote: » I can't remember if I've contributed to this thread already, I think I may have at different stages. The conversation about the 8th is everywhere, it's hard to escape it, whether you want to or not. Throughout my life, I have often thought of how the 8th could have impacted me. My brother sexually abused me for years when I was a child. I often think about if I had ended up pregnant as a result of the abuse. The resulting baby would have been a baby born from incest with who knows what sort of severe health problems and I would have been a seriously damaged person as a result, I am damaged enough as is. When I think of the 8th, I think of other young girls, young women and women in general who are being abused, by a partner or a family member and the impact the 8th (as it is) may have on them. I fully support abortion, abortions for every woman who wants one, no matter what the reason. My experience is just one of a thousand reasons why a woman might seek an abortion. I think back to being 10 years old and not understanding a fucking thing about my life and I am scared for myself. It's a terrifying thought. What if.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » Why are the pro-life crowd so terrified by a poll?
Irish Medical Times wrote: With 388 votes cast, 285 responses (73%) said ‘Yes’ they would support the introduction of abortion on request up to 12 weeks into a pregnancy; 96 (25%) said ‘No’ they would not support the introduction while 7 (2%) did not know. Responses from readers were made by going to the Irish Medical Times Twitter @IMT_latest, Facebook www.facebook.com/IrishMedical Times/or our website at www.imt.ie.
Candamir wrote: » Really? It’s still on their FB Page. More ‘fake news’ keano!
keano_afc wrote: » The IMT have deleted the poll. They won't even stand over it themselves. It seems it's only accepted by the good people on boards.ie. Thank goodness for anonymous internet chat forums.
expectationlost wrote: » the cso double check a sample of their data
Candamir wrote: » FFS The survey asks medical doctors what their opinion is on a subject. ‘Are you a medical doctor’ - yes/no ‘Do you Support 12 week access.....’ - yes/no/don’t know At some point you have to either believe (a) that people who answer surveys are generally honest, and the survey is therefore an accurate representation of their feelings, or (b)that they’re telling lies and therefore surveys are useless. If you believe (b) then disregard all survey/poll/non concrete evidence from here on out. Including pretty much everything you see on the various prolife posters. You can also include everything that comes out of the CSO, as that’s also only a survey. If you keep going down this path, you’ll soon find you can’t really believe anything much at all!
seamus wrote: » Considering the survey won't even be published until tomorrow, you're making a lot of declarations about what it does and doesn't say. Where's your evidence that it's a lie?
mrkiscool2 wrote: » Sorry, there is no argument here, at all. If the mother's life is at risk due to her pregnancy an abortion should be performed immediately. There is no debate here. Risking her life for the sake of a fetus is not acceptable, especially when the trauma the woman is going through could kill the fetus anyway.
Delirium wrote: » you know many plumbers that subscribe to the Irish Medical Times?
Howard Tasteless Bank wrote: » Welp, successfully scuppered any discussion of yet more evidence showing that medical professionals consistently support repeal, so job done. If it wasn't that it would have been something else. Phrasing of the question, who asked it, whether it was in fact 61.3% and not 62%, what day of the week it was, if the respondents had been personally victimised by Una Mulally. It happens every survey.
keano_afc wrote: » That we're led to believe it was a poll of doctors. It was a poll of people who read a magazine, which could be anybody.
keano_afc wrote: » Well no, because opinion polls generally say who they are polling. Saying 75% of doctors say X is a lie because they have no evidence that only doctors were polled.
Loafing Oaf wrote: » Because it can only say this definitively if they polled every single doctor in the country? By this standard, pretty much every headline on an opinion poll news story is a lie...
keano_afc wrote: » The survey says 75% of doctors say X. This is a lie. Thats the problem.
