Bannasidhe wrote: » I think this is one of the most honest statements I have read. If, as next of kin, it is a case of the woman or the fetus... how many of us in all honesty would say save the fetus? I wouldn't.
Edward M wrote: » Its stating the obvious though I feel. Repealing the eighth would romp home in a referendum imo What a lot of voters might have and indeed do have issue with is what is proposed to replace it.
Edward M wrote: » I could easily say I don't think his wifes health is worth more than my unborn.
RobertKK wrote: » Embarrassing for the Irish Examiner which was recently bought by the Irish Times, and the poll they printed on their front page that 75% of doctors supported 12 week abortion limit. It turned out it was a twitter poll where anyone could log in and claim they were a doctor and vote as there was no verification of one was or wasn’t a doctor. So this is a clear example of fake news being splashed across a national newspaper when the poll was open to be anyone but claimed it was only doctors who were asked.https://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/75-of-doctors-support-12-week-access-to-abortion-466855.html They used a twitter poll and also a link where one could say they were a doctor and then vote. Here is the twitter pollhttps://twitter.com/imt_latest/status/956898931639808001 But it is splashed across a national newspaper as a proper poll, lol. A paper owned by the Irish Times...
Out of 388 respondents, a total of 285, or 73%, said they are in favour of the divisive new rule, while 96, or 25%, said they are opposed, with just seven survey takers, or 2%, saying they have no view on the matter.
NuMarvel wrote: » RobertKK wrote: » Embarrassing for the Irish Examiner which was recently bought by the Irish Times, and the poll they printed on their front page that 75% of doctors supported 12 week abortion limit. It turned out it was a twitter poll where anyone could log in and claim they were a doctor and vote as there was no verification of one was or wasn’t a doctor. So this is a clear example of fake news being splashed across a national newspaper when the poll was open to be anyone but claimed it was only doctors who were asked.https://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/75-of-doctors-support-12-week-access-to-abortion-466855.html They used a twitter poll and also a link where one could say they were a doctor and then vote. Here is the twitter pollhttps://twitter.com/imt_latest/status/956898931639808001 But it is splashed across a national newspaper as a proper poll, lol. A paper owned by the Irish Times... The IMT survey was based on a proper survey, and not the twitter poll. The Twitter poll had 93 votes, whereas the IMT survey referred to in the headline had 388 respondents. The results don't match either. Out of 388 respondents, a total of 285, or 73%, said they are in favour of the divisive new rule, while 96, or 25%, said they are opposed, with just seven survey takers, or 2%, saying they have no view on the matter. Maybe next time, try reading the article before telling us they got it wrong, yeah?
NuMarvel wrote: » The results don't match either.
seamus wrote: » The IMT survey is 75% in favour when you exclude the "no opinion"s
keano_afc wrote: » The Journal and the Irish Times have pulled this "survey" from their online versions. Its the very definition of fake news.
applehunter wrote: » I don't trust our media to report on the referendum fairly. That poll today is another example of why.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » what in particular was unfair about the poll in the examiner?
keano_afc wrote: » That we're led to believe it was a poll of doctors. It was a poll of people who read a magazine, which could be anybody.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » who do you think reads the Irish Medical Times?
keano_afc wrote: » Anybody who buys it.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » and who do you think buys? Are there a lot of non-medical people buying it? if you have some info please share it?
Howard Tasteless Bank wrote: » In 2016, it had a circulation of fewer than 7k copies. It's a trade publication that sells mostly through subscriptions. Where would you put the number of non medical professionals who bought that issue and responded to a poll expressly aimed at medical professionals? The straw grasping going on by pro life posters isn't screaming confidence, I must say.
keano_afc wrote: » What percentage of the respondents were doctors? The headline insinuates that all who replied were medical doctors. You dont dispute that?
keano_afc wrote: » Anybody who wants to buy the magazine can buy it. What percentage of the respondents were doctors? You seem to know more about it than me.
Howard Tasteless Bank wrote: » It's a very reasonable implication for the reasons I pointed our. Any chance of you answering my question?
applehunter wrote: » It's not in any way a scientific poll but is presented as such in bold print on the front page of the Examiner "75% of doctors support 12 week access (to abortion)"
keano_afc wrote: » I have no idea what the breakdown of respondents was. Nobody does. Thats the point. So to put "75% of doctors", when nobody knows how many doctors took the survey, is misleading.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » It is a reasonable assumption that the vast majority who responded were doctors.
keano_afc wrote: » Its an unreasonable and inaccurate assumption to present a % figure as fact in a national newspaper, when the reality is not the case.
