The Moldy Gowl wrote: » Of course it exists. It's right in front of you everywhere you look. Just because you can see if for what it is, doesn't mean others can't. I don't disagree it's a bit load of spoof because it is but that lad culture and big manly men is right there. You don't think young men or insecure men dont get affected by that? They are thinking why am I not getting girls, why am I not 7 foot tall with a beard and women hanging out of me. Why am I balding? I'm short, fat, and ugly, this version of me will never have the confidence to talk to a woman. Maybe if I start acting like them I'll be a legend like them. How does it not exist?
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » The point of this thread it’s to push the first approach by delegitimising Blindboy message because of his appearance and use of comedy to reach people.
smurgen wrote: » Ulysses Gaze wrote: » Young men absolutely do not need third or fourth waves bonkers feminism to help them. Or Blindboy Boatrace. They'd be better off listening to clinical psychologists like Jordan Peterson or even feminists like Camille Paglia on how to improve their lives. Exactly I listened to alot of Jordan Peterson's work i heard the Channel 4 interview and it resonated with me alot more than any of the stuff i've heard come out of Blindboys.
Ulysses Gaze wrote: » Young men absolutely do not need third or fourth waves bonkers feminism to help them. Or Blindboy Boatrace. They'd be better off listening to clinical psychologists like Jordan Peterson or even feminists like Camille Paglia on how to improve their lives.
RGDATA! wrote: » Who is he a parody of anyway?
MayoSalmon wrote: » Have a google there
DickSwiveller wrote: » No, I haven't. As RTE is completely committed to dumbing down national debate I have had the misfortune of seeing him on the late late a few times. I think he's basically a useful idiot, furthering the cause of the anti-man propaganda being pushed by politicians, media, dopes on social media etc. Hopping on the mental health bandwagon just gives him more exposure.
DickSwiveller wrote: » Oh for f**k sake, please stop with the stupid buzz words. Hegemonic masculinity doesn't exist. All those sociology seminars you attended were a complete waste of time.
The Moldy Gowl wrote: Identity politics by the left? What does that even mean?
MayoSalmon wrote: » So being a man can be toxic?! Yeah get the boat. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being a man no matter what baseless assumptions you try to find. This stereotyping is yet another identity politics ploy by the left which are always trying to diagnose how other groups act as oppressors.
The Moldy Gowl wrote: » Jesus. Hegemonic masculinity, ie 'mainstream' masculinty is designed to put the idea that you aren't good enough compared to your peers. If a few men could be self aware of their own emotions and themselves, they would be happier within themselves.
MayoSalmon wrote: » It's a made up term by feminists to support their precieved notions that masculinity can be a bad thing
the purple tin wrote: » Are the Rubberbandits still going or have they split up? What is Mr Chrome doing these days?
dinneenp wrote: » He's actually very articulate and in his book of short stories has a short story about a girl that suffers from depression.
Rekop dog wrote: » Have you actually listened to the podcasts? Can you formulate an actual argument on the negative aspects of things he's said? Because to me it's all very healthy and logical and genuinely struggling to see how someone can turn it on its head and find it potentially troublesome.
DickSwiveller wrote: » People given platforms need to realize that what they say has an influence on people, and they should therefore be very careful when pontificating on subjects they know little about. Especially when their target audience is young people. WB Yeats wrote about this in his poem 'Man and the echo'.
Pter wrote: Read the thread pal.
Pter wrote: » That's not what the term means. I mean yes if you read the two words toxic and masculinity and interpreted those words and those alone that's what it means, but the concept is actually slightly more complex than that. It's what we were talking about earlier in the thread. Boys don't cry. That kind of nonsense. Masculinity is fine. But not masculinity that suppresses emotion. That we can do without.
MayoSalmon wrote: So being a man can be toxic?! Yeah get the boat. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being a man no matter what baseless assumptions you try to find.
Rekop dog wrote: » From what I've heard he is at pains to point out he's not in any way a professional and his thoughts are merely his opinions on the matter and not to be taken as gospel. I think his output is sensible, articulate and well thought out and his reasons for wanting to maintain his privacy is also very understandable and admirable imo. Anyone deriving negativity from what he's doing is coming from a deeply flawed place. He's admitted some of his motivations are selfish in that positive feedback from people who were in dark places that he's helped does make him feel better about himself but it's the right type of selfishness and good to have the grounding and self awareness to realise it's both good for his own and other people's mental health. Most importantly he's helping to normalize stigmas and reaching an audience who may be among the most vulnerable, his demographic of listeners would be among the highest suicide risks. If they find him relatable and engaging it can only be a positive.
Pter wrote: I disagree with most of what you have said there so let's just agree to disagree.
Pter wrote: No. Wait. All of it. I disagree with all of it.
MayoSalmon wrote: It's a made up term by feminists to support their precieved notions that masculinity can be a bad thing
Pter wrote: Lots of psychologists would disagree with you in published articles, so I'll take their word for it, thanks.
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