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Expired pets....I don't get it!

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We had 2 hamsters. I got one of them euthanised last night.
The saddest part was handing over €55 for its death and disposal.

The alternative was stick it in a box outside at night....but I'm not that heartless.

But I just don't get the attachment people have to their pets and the apparent loss they feel at their departure.

Over the years we've had cats and dogs. Some have died naturally, others were brought to the vet in their old age but I just considered them animals and not siblings etc as some do.

What am I missing here? Why the utter despair at the loss of an animal?

I just don't get it!

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wexie

Patww79 wrote: »

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Like I said, how do they smell drugs and explosives at the airport?
Apparently some diseases give off a smell that dogs can be trained to detect and give some form of signal (sitting, barking, running in circles or whatever) when they notice it....

and they may not tell specifically what or where. But just even being able to tell (within a small reasonable doubt) that this person needs further scrutiny (and doing it very cheaply and without any medical procedures) is a HUUUUGE help

Mountainsandh

Pablo Petite Gymnasium wrote: »

My son misses the hamster...the one he never played with or even looked at.
He came with me to the vets. It was a toss up as to who the vet brought into the back room
It was a good life lesson for him.

Hamsters, gold fish, turtles and such wouldn't do much for me.
Can't humanize them much.
Although Hamsters, maybe, if I called them Mr or Mrs something... might manage. You could do a miniature bow tie or something, and set them up with miniature tables and make a miniature restaurant and video them eating for youtube... I'm warming up to hamsters actually.

oh look ! someone did it ! awww... https://youtu.be/rPLiGyWy5bQ

OldMrBrennan83

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wexie

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Oh you mean just a regular dog like? Rather than one trained to do so?

Geez I don't know, you'd have to ask the person that posted it.
Good question by the way, I'd know when my dogs are acting 'off' but I surely wouldn't immediately think they're trying to tell me I have cancer.

More likely they ate a sock and are about to puke on the couch with my ones to be honest

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Mountainsandh wrote: »

Hamsters, gold fish, turtles and such wouldn't do much for me.
Can't humanize them much.
Although Hamsters, maybe, if I called them Mr or Mrs something... might manage. You could do a miniature bow tie or something, and set them up with miniature tables and make a miniature restaurant and video them eating for youtube... I'm warming up to hamsters actually.

oh look ! someone did it ! awww... https://youtu.be/rPLiGyWy5bQ

They're brilliant pets. Easy to tame (although Jeeheeeezus at the start you'd be surprised at the bite they can pack for the size of them), cheap and easy to care for, and incredibly entertaining and cute. They're like something by Disney come to life. Not exactly the sharpest tools in the box though, and they're on a lifelong mission to escape pretty much.

First time we left ours alone for a few days (well stocked with food and water of course) he went a bit wrong. Figured out to just leave the radio tuned to something like Newstalk and he's grand, I suppose they get used to the human voices.

I'd love a cat or dog but my housemate's allergic to cats and no dogs allowed in the rental. It's really nice to have the hamster.

OldMrBrennan83

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Mountainsandh

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Maybe in a narrow context where the ill person is a visitor (but not a stranger), and you see your dog acting strange with them without any signs of aggression, or history of begging for food with that person or whatever.
But yeah, I'd be doubtful too.

wexie

Mountainsandh wrote: »

Maybe in a narrow context where the ill person is a visitor (but not a stranger), and you see your dog acting strange with them without any signs of aggression, or history of begging for food with that person or whatever.
But yeah, I'd be doubtful too.

One of my dogs acted very strange around our god daughter. We didn't think much of it at the time but a week later she was diagnosed with leukemia.

Who knows? I absolutely believe that dogs can be trained to do these things, which would mean that some dogs would just have the ability....

I think there was a case of a cat in a carehome in Germany that wouldn't leave a persons side just before they died. Everyone loved being visited by the cat but once they realised what was happening people were pretty happy to see it go again as well.

Mountainsandh

Alondra Fluffy Obesity wrote: »

They're brilliant pets. .

They do look cute, but I can never have one anyway, I have two fearsome predators at home.

robyntmorton

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I miss my doggy He's buried down the back of the garden.

We lost our dog of 16 years 3 weeks ago. It’s not easy no longer having him there, and even the cat realises he’s gone.

It’s difficult not to form an attachment to them.

SEPT 23 1989

The death of the family dog or cat is very rough and the worst part is that you can't really talk to anyone about it unlike when a family member dies

Alun

wexie wrote: »

Who knows? I absolutely believe that dogs can be trained to do these things, which would mean that some dogs would just have the ability....

I'd imagine that dogs that suffer from those diseases emit the same or similar chemical markers as humans do, and over time dogs have come to recognise them as a sign that the other dog isn't well.

Dogs can fairly easily be trained to detect a number of specific scents, so if you can get hold of a sample of urine, sweat or whatever from a person suffering from that disease it's a simple matter to train them to indicate that they've detected it.

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ouxbbkqtswdfaw

I believe animals go to heaven, and we will see them again.

MilesMorales1

I told my cat your silly thought OP and he wasn't impressed

wexie

np8tefxlzai62j wrote: »

I believe animals go to heaven, and we will see them again.

wouldn't be much of a heaven without them now would it?

OldMrBrennan83

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erica74

Pablo Petite Gymnasium wrote: »

We had 2 hamsters. I got one of them euthanised last night.
The saddest part was handing over €55 for its death and disposal.

The alternative was stick it in a box outside at night....but I'm not that heartless.

But I just don't get the attachment people have to their pets and the apparent loss they feel at their departure.

Over the years we've had cats and dogs. Some have died naturally, others were brought to the vet in their old age but I just considered them animals and not siblings etc as some do.

What am I missing here? Why the utter despair at the loss of an animal?

I just don't get it!

If you don't get it, you never will. It's something that can't easily be put into words.

I had my great dane put to sleep 4 years ago and I am still devastated. I got him as a 12 week old puppy when I lived alone and he was only 4 when I had him put to sleep. He was literally my best friend. Anything I did was organised around him and with him in mind.
He was the best behaved dog you could ever meet, walked right beside me with no lead, was never bold, never chewed up furniture, was toilet trained at 12 weeks old. I will be here all day if I list all of the great things about him.

When I found out he was sick, it was a horrible time in my life. We only had 2 months together between finding out he was sick and having him put to sleep. It was horrific. Some people may think that's a strong word to use but that's how it felt.
For 2 weeks I slept on the floor of my bedroom with him because he was too heavy to lift onto my bed (he was 80kg).
The day I had him put to sleep I lost a part of myself. Again, some people may think that's too much but that's how I felt and that's how I still feel.

Lots (if not all) dog owners will tell you that there's only ever one dog who you have that true connection with. You will have other dogs and love and adore them but there's only ever that one dog that just clicks with you and you feel this deep connection that cannot be explained.
My great dane was that one dog for me. I have 3 dogs now and when I had my great dane I had 2 other dogs and I absolutely adore them all and they know they are loved and adored but my great dane was and is a part of my soul.

MilesMorales1

Patww79 wrote: »

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That is a complete lie.

Bitches Be Trypsin

Literally bawling at this thread.

My little dog is 15 now and slowly dying. We have decided not to euthanize her as she's not in any pain and she's very content. It just kills me to see her day by day wasting away.

She's the closest thing in my life really, we share a bond that I just don't have with many other people. She acted as a therapy dog in times in my life when I was in serious distress.

It's days like Christmas day and her birthday that upset me because I know it'll be the last with her. I spent most of Christmas day crying over it.

This sounds so so dramatic but I don't think some people understand the relationship between certain people and their pets

ouxbbkqtswdfaw

wexie wrote:

wouldn't be much of a heaven without them now would it?

True. Animals have a soul, not like ours, and they have a place in heaven.

Canis Lupus

np8tefxlzai62j wrote: »

True. Animals have a soul, not like ours, and they have a place in heaven.

No they don't

Canis Lupus

I like to look on the bright side. The death of a pet means

TIME FOR A NEW PUPPY WOOHOO!!!

wait... Why you guys looking at me like that?

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Our first dog Snickers had to be put down last November as he developed bone cancer. We just thought it was a lump at the time, so the vet removed what they could. Unfortunately he had some complications from the surgery and required blood and plasma transfusions, and I had to rush him to UCD Pet Hospital. After a couple of days we knew his quality of life would be poor so we made the hard decision. We had insurance but the whole process cost us €1k (insurance only paid for 65% as he was over 8 years old). It's an awful lot for us these days but we didn't care, Snickers meant the world to us. He had been rehomed twice before we had him (8 years previous) and had awful separation anxiety, but he had buckets of personality.

After he was put down, we lasted two weeks before we agreed that the house was too empty (even with a toddler in the house!) and then we decided to rehome a puppy. Jasper is still fitting in but we'd do anything for him.

Pets are family, so any loss can be really tough.

Obligatory puppy pic (Jasper).

ouxbbkqtswdfaw

And we will see them again.

erica74

I'll never forget coming home from work one day and my husband and his 2 friends were at the house when I got there. They said "Henry isn't himself, he's acting a bit strange". I knew by the way he was walking that he had something stuck in his paw. He wouldn't let anyone else near him. I picked up his front left paw and pulled out a thorn and as soon as I did he leaned his big head into my chest like he was saying thank you.

ouxbbkqtswdfaw

Canis Lupus wrote:

No they don't

Yes they do. You don't understand animals.

Ave Sodalis

Patww79 wrote:

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You get to know them. I know my dog really well. When he wants something, I can tell exactly what it is he wants. It's just subtle changes, like if he wants out to relieve himself then he stares at me with one ear slightly higher than the other. He's also 11 and knows most key English words so if I'm unsure, I list them out and whatever one he starts tenses at, I know that's what he's looking for. I leave food until last though because he's a lab and he immediately wants food when he hears it, regardless of what he actually wants.

His sense of smell is awful though so I doubt he'd smell cancer etc but I would know if there was something off about him, or he was trying to alert me to something odd.

wexie

np8tefxlzai62j wrote: »

Yes they do. You don't understand animals.

Honestly...I don't know about souls, are they an exclusively human thing? Is there even such a thing?

Tell ya what I do know though....many animals behave in a much more human way than many people do