optogirl wrote: » I'm pretty sure he does have a degree in psychoanalysis
smurgen wrote: » Why not say men need equality rather than feminism?equality of the genders.probably be harder to grab a headline with that phrasing.we have enough loons like Louise O Neil without having to go to the states.
_Dara_ wrote: » Well my very non-SJW husband has recommended Blindboy’s podcast to me so I’m going to have a listen!
Ulysses Gaze wrote: » Either Blindboy's last or second last podcast had a lengthy piece about how much he enjoys listening to Jordan Peterson and recommending it to other listeners. He's on the same page as you but you don't know that because you've dismissed him out of hand. __________________________________________________________________ Except Peterson has never stated that Feminism is the way for young men to improve their lives. Blindboy made a huge sweeping statement when he said that Feminism is what young men need. And he did it on National TV. He never qualified it, never caveated it, never explained what aspects or strains of Feminism should be investigated and ignored. Again he did this on national TV. Maybe he needs to take what Peterson has always said into account - be very careful with the words you use in the public sphere.
smurgen wrote: » The views he expresses seem to be at odds to peterson's.
Danjamin1 wrote: » Either Blindboy's last or second last podcast had a lengthy piece about how much he enjoys listening to Jordan Peterson and recommending it to other listeners. He's on the same page as you but you don't know that because you've dismissed him out of hand.
Ulysses Gaze wrote: » Young men absolutely do not need third or fourth waves bonkers feminism to help them. Or Blindboy Boatrace. They'd be better off listening to clinical psychologists like Jordan Peterson or even feminists like Camille Paglia on how to improve their lives.
Nermal wrote: » Lord save us from useless weeping men in touch with their 'feelings'. 'Boys don't cry' is a simple way of teaching an important lesson.
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » This is exactly what he was saying. Breaking down the unhelpful parts of the stereotype of gender roles. Simple and sensible. I get the impression that for some people feminism conjures up an image of some blue haired loon from America. I do t think Blindboy was suggesting men need to be more like her.
Danjamin1 wrote: » Maybe I picked it up wrong but what I took from what he was saying is that the stereotypical lessons of "boys don't cry" is a poor lesson to teach a child, things like crying or expressing emotion are viewed as "girly" or feminine traits so boys are taught not to show those feelings. And that's what I thought he was saying about it's impact on mental health, a lot of men don't know how to express their feelings because they were taught as children not to which leads to some level of inner turmoil.
smurgen wrote: » How do you know i haven't? I just don't agree with what he says and i'm very cynical of the new mental health industry shooting up.if we had more money pumped into actual on the ground mental health services rather than paying the likes of bressie 5k and hour to tho theorize about it we might actually save more lives.and i will also say that dad's best friend is my favourite of their's top.definately know a few of those characters.
smurgen wrote: Did you think that maybe he's projecting his own issues on people as a whole?
Mickiemcfist wrote: » You're clearly someone who's just read summaries of his interviews or podcast. There is literally no way someone could feel worse about themselves after listening to it. I'm also starting to feel that this argument is becoming "those who've had or have mental health issues vs those that haven't" Some people, me included, find his podcast beneficial and or just funny, those that don't shouldn't feel the need to slate him or anyone who listens to it. It's one man's opinions and experiences of mental health put across in an entertaining (to some) way, what harm. As someone said above, I'm not a fan of Mrs brown, I actually can't stand it, but I don't go to the Mrs brown section of boards telling everyone he's crap & to stop watching it. How arrogant is that?
smurgen wrote: » Did you think that maybe he's projecting his own issues on people as a whole? Maybe some impressionable young men with minor problems will listen to his spiel and come off feeling worse about themselves?he's not a qualified psychiatrist or psychologist yet he's offering advice to young men that pisses me off to be honest. And don't get me wrong they were great when they were laughing about buzzing bags of glue and yoke popping but i just feel it hard to take to him as an englightened individuals now championing mental health.
Danjamin1 wrote: Maybe I picked it up wrong but what I took from what he was saying is that the stereotypical lessons of "boys don't cry" is a poor lesson to teach a child, things like crying or expressing emotion are viewed as "girly" or feminine traits so boys are taught not to show those feelings. And that's what I thought he was saying about it's impact on mental health, a lot of men don't know how to express their feelings because they were taught as children not to which leads to some level of inner turmoil.
smurgen wrote: Men need feminism.how he related that to mental health i'll never know.people were talking about mental health for years before this clown it's practically an industry.
optogirl wrote: » he's not applying his experiences to society as a whole though - he's giving his opinion. He calls his musings 'hot takes' implying he's open to correction, discussion & argument. More than implying infact, he says it all the time 'feel free to tell me I'm talking ****e'. He's not portraying himself as the 'real life voice of Ireland' - if that's what some clickbaiter at Joe.ie wants to call him that's not BB's fault.
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_Whimsical_ wrote: I don't really read the gentleman's club here but it's sad if it's not used to promote positive messages.. Internet forums can be echo chambers that don't reflect society in general. It doesn't change the fact that positive things are out there even if you aren't hearing them. It's probably good to be reminded that other prescriptive exist in wider society. That message needs to be reinforced. The names that have added something positive should be remembered. I think it's brilliant if Blindboy is reaching people on that level though. We need as many as we can get discussing mental health in general, not just for men.
_Whimsical_ wrote: We should be able to roll some female names off the tongue though. You shouldn't feel male mental health is completely different to female experience and that female experience isn't relevant to you. We should be talking about it as a general issue affecting both sexes because ultimately lots of men in trouble will reach out to women and vice versa. We are in it together.
_Whimsical_ wrote: My exposure to Blind Boy has been through the media and I've heard him talk on panel shows on everything from religion, where he was quite insulting to religious people, to social policy to brexit. I think those might be the issues the original OP was referring to, where it feels slightly ridiculous to listen to someone wearing a plastic bag and choosing to appear as his comedic character. Like if Mrs Brown was joining important discussions. I thought he did a great job tonight on Tommy Tiernan though and I will search out his podcast based on what you've said about it too. It's a pity to see him ridiculed for that. As a country we have a slightly problem with latching into someone with something to say and thinking they can be included in every conversation though. It gets tiresome. That's not to ridicule him but ourselves though.
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