Icelandicseige wrote: » Do you know the way Teagasc say the cost of keeping a suckler cow every year is 500 is their a cost for keeping a Fr Dairy Cow a year thrown around??
the_blue_oval wrote: » Was going through the figures here a few weeks back.. coming in between €1400 and €1500 all in including all labour and land charges, think it included rearing replacements too .. probably working out at 1000-1100 if you don’t include land and labour.. and that’s on what’s considered to be a fairly low cost system...
Icelandicseige wrote: » When you say land does that mean what your paying for rented land or the cost of your own land if rented out ??
visatorro wrote: » Prot 3.21 fat 3.97 urea 27 scc 213 litres 21.8. Five kgs of 18 hi maize. Silage middling 70 dmd. All calved between 15oct and 15 Dec. Winter milk paid back in spades. Good market for calves as well. Cows showing good heats. Lost one calf with scours. Two still born. Few cows springing now just wait until May now to get cows out and I'll be flying! My cows wouldn't be overly milky. I had 2000 gallon cows here before and I couldn't manage them properly. I had Jerseys as well and I don't think they are for me either. I've two or three left. It's mostly friesan bred from stock bulls.
GrasstoMilk wrote: » Our last year in winter milk. Looking forward to the change tbh
visatorro wrote: » I don't have the grazing block so I've to dry off cows in August, September to cope. Was very close to going spring milk but I'd have to go down numbers. I've A milkman as well and if I let him go for winter I'd be afraid he wouldn't come back! He's entitled to a steady income as well.
Timmaay wrote: » Got on very well here with using the late spring calvers and culls to fill the liquid contracts last 2 winters here. Compact calving, which most lightly won't be able to cover the liquid litres during Jan is the target. However doing out the sums, my yearly liquid bonus is worth the same profit from about 6 spring cows, would be a hell of alot easier to put them extra 6 cows in the system, and be able to turn off the milking machine for 6wks.
Gawddawggonnit wrote: » Big Phil comes out with a warning about the unsustainability of the Irish dairy expansion. Overproduction etc etc. I wonder why he didn’t threaten to release the intervention stocks to drop/control prices, as that’s the aim of the Commission for ‘18....(as I already posted). Interesting.
Gawddawggonnit wrote: Big Phil comes out with a warning about the unsustainability of the Irish dairy expansion. Overproduction etc etc.
Mooooo wrote: » What's your minimum amount to retain liquid? My min is 28k Litres per month so while I may hit it in Dec unlikely to do so in Jan without fresh calvers
kevthegaff wrote: » She wer listening to that from a converted french man the last few years! Imo it's like NZ mark 2 at the moment in regards to expansion/environment. I see lads loaded with cows atm
jaymla627 wrote: » Maybe he's trying to formulate a scheme to compensate all the owners of new rotarys that they will be grant aided to turn to them into merry go rounds, I reckon the Eu are starting to be quiet taken back by the rapid increase in Irish production, its still head-scratching they even renewed derogation for another 4 years they could off really curbed back cow numbers increasing dramatically by scraping it and setting a 170 limit
alps wrote: » The derogation protects the non intensive operator.... Do you want 7000 top class operators on the market for ground?
jaymla627 wrote: » Im not advocating it, it's what I'd do if I was in Brussels trying to figure out how to stop the pesky Irish dairy farmers from producing billions more litres of milk going forward annually, going forward Ireland is failing miserably in all sectors in curbing emissions and facing massive fines as a result, agriculture isn't going to escape scot-free when the government is eventually made to craic down on all sectors in the economy
Keepgrowing wrote: » This is what our expat is referring to. I note France mentioned. This mainland euro crap of blaming Ireland at every turn is wearisome especially when we didn't put as much powder into intervention as other "members"https://m.independent.ie/business/farming/dairy/irish-dairy-expansion-levels-are-unsustainable-warns-hogan-telling-farmers-to-heed-market-signals-36547287.html?utm_content=bufferfdcc9&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
Gawddawggonnit wrote: » My late mother used to say that the biggest fool was the fool that believed his own lies. Greenwash away to fcuk. I couldn’t give a damn if ye turn Ireland into one of Trumps sh!tholes. No skin off my nose. My post was about how the Commissioner has stopped short of saying that he will use intervention stocks to control production. That I do care about! The Commission has already said on French media that that is their objective. I already posted this. The Commission knows that once the drought broke in November last, that French production immediately surged. In their eyes that’s not good... These bureaucrats can’t help themselves from meddling in a supposedly ‘free’ market. It’s how they meddle bothers me. Fwiw there are some, very few, forthright posters here that get pilloried fro saying it like it is, and that’s a shame but I hope that they continue...
