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Dairy chit chat II

Mooooo

One morning I need to get the cows done early dumbass here let's the wire down directing to parlour and cows head for a gallop to the last fecking field on the pasaage

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whelan2

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Made one up ourselves from an old wheel barrow. It is very handy to have

Putting them into a half tone meal bag and pulling it up the yard at the minute, thought the barrow would be handier

visatorro

whelan2 wrote: »

Putting them into a half tone meal bag and pulling it up the yard at the minute, thought the barrow would be handier

Probably would be handier alright. Im able to lead most of them to pens with speedy feeder. Carry the odd weaker one.

Would a four wheeled trolley with high sides be as good.

Say my name

MickeyShtyles wrote: »

It’s gonna turn into an expensive game now as China have stopped taking plastic waste...

Silage wrap never went out to China though afaik.

http://www.farmplastics.ie/new-products/

Even the farm relief stuff that ends up as stokboard is made in Liverpool afaik.
Although there may be some made in Ireland.

Although who knows where the netting would end up?
Once you'll go with the film instead of net though you'll never go back.

Injuryprone

K.G. wrote: »

A couple of questions about yer parlours .how have ye the lights done in the pit.electrian wants to put in this perforated box stuff to carry the lights and wires but i think it gather s##t.also how many light over how long a pit.secondly do ye just put the vacumn exhaust into bucket ti gather the oil .

I've a unistrut running along the top of the stallwork crossmembers to carry the led tubes. Unistrut comes with plastic top cover

Say my name

whelan2 wrote: »

Putting them into a half tone meal bag and pulling it up the yard at the minute, thought the barrow would be handier

I've said it years ago when carrying calves was fashionable.
The non tipper level top jfc double wheel wheelbarrow is hard to beat.

All you need is a (little pony) human between the shafts.

visatorro

https://twitter.com/j86carroll/status/957529100545126400?ref_src=twcamp%5Eshare%7Ctwsrc%5Em5%7Ctwgr%5Eemail%7Ctwcon%5E7046%7Ctwterm%5E1

jaymla627

Say my name wrote: »

Silage wrap never went out to China though afaik.

http://www.farmplastics.ie/new-products/

Even the farm relief stuff that ends up as stokboard is made in Liverpool afaik.
Although there may be some made in Ireland.

Although who knows where the netting would end up?
Once you'll go with the film instead of net though you'll never go back.

Going back to net here next year, bought a pro-dig bale shear and it's a disaster trying to retain the plastic with it, works perfect with net wrapped bales, the bit of film that seems to end up under the first layer of silage is proving to be some ball-ache with wet wraps

whelan2

visatorro wrote: »

https://twitter.com/j86carroll/status/957529100545126400?ref_src=twcamp%5Eshare%7Ctwsrc%5Em5%7Ctwgr%5Eemail%7Ctwcon%5E7046%7Ctwterm%5E1

Thats a good sized barrow, normal jfc one wouldnt do

whelan2

doesnt give a price https://www.donedeal.ie/otherfarmmachinery-for-sale/calf-barrow/16697372

Say my name

whelan2 wrote: »

Thats a good sized barrow, normal jfc one wouldnt do

That's the smaller tipping model Whelan.

Note the angled front on the barrow and straight handles.

http://jfcagri.com/farm-equipment/

Edit: scrap that it could be the 400 litre model!

Anyway happy out with my non tipper for the job.

alps

Just received a nice surprise from ICBF....

They are taking part in the gouging....

Here plus fee to go up massively....

All our suppliers now think they own a bit of our last year's profit...

Feeling really pissed now....

whelan2

alps wrote: »

Just received a nice surprise from ICBF....

They are taking part in the gouging....

Here plus fee to go up massively....

All our suppliers now think they own a bit of our last year's profit...

Feeling really pissed now....

How much is it going up by? It was 60 euro-which isnt alot in fairness- wasnt it

jaymla627

alps wrote: »

Just received a nice surprise from ICBF....

They are taking part in the gouging....

Here plus fee to go up massively....

All our suppliers now think they own a bit of our last year's profit...

Feeling really pissed now....

Moved feed suppliers here over it, they tried putting up prices by 20 odd euro, quoted us 280 for a 16% nut that was been blown in at 260 last year, payment within 30 days aswell, bought over 200 ton of feed of them last year and would be 300 this year but they didn't seem to worried over losing us

C4d78

Anyone know how much liquid paraffin to give a calf that’s bound. Few days old.

Injuryprone

whelan2 wrote: »

How much is it going up by? It was 60 euro-which isnt alot in fairness- wasnt it

It's more than doubling for most farmers. €100 + 50c per cow

visatorro

Injuryprone wrote: »

It's more than doubling for most farmers. €100 + 50c per cow

Robbery, its something that I can do without anyway.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Injuryprone wrote: »

It's more than doubling for most farmers. €100 + 50c per cow

Sure it's just following the price of milk.

Oh, wait.....

kevthegaff

C4d78 wrote: »

Anyone know how much liquid paraffin to give a calf that’s bound. Few days old.

200ml?

kevthegaff

What have icbf ever done for me?

whelan2

kevthegaff wrote: »

What have icbf ever done for me?

I wouldn't be their biggest fan but before icbf we were using jabot and sunny boy as top bulls of the day. They had brutal fertility. Testing less than 20 bulls a year.I'd like to think we have come a long way since they were set up. I think their levies/ fees are all wrong and this new fee should be in place as a one off payment per yer rather than taking money from a load of different sources.

alps

Most bad habits creep in slowly. Be careful of small compromises....Warren Buffett

visatorro

kevthegaff wrote: »

What have icbf ever done for me?

I'm edging towards a flying herd here so I don't think they have anything to offer me anymore. Like of mahoney_j and stan probably get good value from it because they breed bulls and sell surplus stock

kowtow

Is there anything in the herdwatch / agfood structure which allows me to keep - say - heifers visible in my profile when they have gone to another herd number on bed & breakfast?

We have a handful of heifers out at the moment, and they'll come back in to me anyway as we are taking over the farm they are on. Nevertheless, with contract rearing and similar arrangements becoming part of the picture I would have thought the agfood database (which ultimately determines what herdwatch displays) needs to evolve to take account of this sort of set up.

The letter from ICBF says that the new pricing structure is fairer to smaller herds.. which is fair enough, but I have surely one of the smallest herds on herdwatch and my fee will double during the course of 2018.

Water John

They didn't lie to you, just mislead you, In that they will hit the big herds worse than they are hitting you. That's the real meaning.

yewtree

visatorro wrote: »

I'm edging towards a flying herd here so I don't think they have anything to offer me anymore. Like of mahoney_j and stan probably get good value from it because they breed bulls and sell surplus stock

Surely the farmer running a flying herd needs them more than anyone. Without coop performance reports or ebi reports how would you have any idea what you are buying?
flying herds are grand as long as there is enough lads willing to put the time and money into breeding. A couple of batches of low fertility/low solids heifers will soon wake lads up to the value of a national breeding programme.
fees here are going to more than triple by 2019.
I still think its good value considering all that can be got out of it.

alps

yewtree wrote: »

Surely the farmer running a flying herd needs them more than anyone. Without coop performance reports or ebi reports how would you have any idea what you are buying?
flying herds are grand as long as there is enough lads willing to put the time and money into breeding. A couple of batches of low fertility/low solids heifers will soon wake lads up to the value of a national breeding programme.
fees here are going to more than triple by 2019.
I still think its good value considering all that can be got out of it.

Easy come , easy go

We now have gross duplication of services.

We pay an Agrinet, ICBF, IHFA, now gonna be a Pasture Base one, Milk recording....all leading to duplication of data collection and service...

I'm firmly of the the opinion that a fee increase is never warranted without a corresponding efficiency gain, or increased level of service...

No industry in the world allows or tolerates such an increase...

We are soft as sh**

visatorro

yewtree wrote: »

Surely the farmer running a flying herd needs them more than anyone. Without coop performance reports or ebi reports how would you have any idea what you are buying?
flying herds are grand as long as there is enough lads willing to put the time and money into breeding. A couple of batches of low fertility/low solids heifers will soon wake lads up to the value of a national breeding programme.
fees here are going to more than triple by 2019.
I still think its good value considering all that can be got out of it.

Yeah I said the people selling stock will use it. Just thinking would I still be able to milk record with them if I'm not a member

Mooooo

alps wrote: »

Easy come , easy go

We now have gross duplication of services.

We pay an Agrinet, ICBF, IHFA, now gonna be a Pasture Base one, Milk recording....all leading to duplication of data collection and service...

I'm firmly of the the opinion that a fee increase is never warranted without a corresponding efficiency gain, or increased level of service...

No industry in the world allows or tolerates such an increase...

We are soft as sh**

Got a letter from a bulk tank refrigeration on increase in contract price, must be going around. Wonder if we send a letter to coop would it work

yewtree

alps wrote: »

Easy come , easy go

We now have gross duplication of services.

We pay an Agrinet, ICBF, IHFA, now gonna be a Pasture Base one, Milk recording....all leading to duplication of data collection and service...

I'm firmly of the the opinion that a fee increase is never warranted without a corresponding efficiency gain, or increased level of service...

No industry in the world allows or tolerates such an increase...

We are soft as sh**

I believe the icbf are one of the better value for money organisations. All of the other organisations listed above can be stopped, its up to each of us to decide whether they are value for money for your business. for all its shortcomings the icbf is farmer owned, if a private company had all our breeding info would they let us have the service at current rates? I also think there is a price to be paid for independent advice.

Brown Podzol

Over €1.7m in cash or equivalent on hands at the end of 2016.

Nine senior management personnel and one bord member shared almost €1 m in wages, social welfare costs and pension cost in 2016, out of a total staff of 63.

On the face of it there doesn't seem to be a need for the massive increase in fees.