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Random Wrasslin' thoughts.....

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So this is a thread for your musings which do not deserve an entire thread of its own.

For example

I just watched Card Subject To Change. Horrific to think that since its been made the following has happened -

Kamala has become an amputee

Sensational Sherrie, Paul Bearer and Trent Acid are dead

Had Kevin Sullivan and Nancy stayed together one of Wrestlings darkest moments would be completely different or never would have happened.

Lacey Von Erich almost became a diva. She is also crazy hot. Pure nom.

I also mused that even while Sherri was a dispicable heel while she was on tv she may well have been my first celeb crush.

All this in one lazy evening.

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[Deleted User]

Scurll for charisma, Ospreay for athleticism. I'd buy a ticket to see either though.

My random thoughts;

1) Scott Hall has never been in a Royal Rumble match but Razor Ramon has.

2) Sean Waltman's first match for WWE took place in 1993 on the day after WrestleMania 9. It took him until Wrestlemania 15 to get a match on the grandest stage of them all. That's a long wait.

ShagNastii

Taylor Gray Physician wrote: »

Random question:

Scurll or Ospreay?

My heart would say Scrull but my head would say Ospreay. Have seen both now countless times in OTT. Love Marty and all he does but I don’t think there has been a local or visiting talent that has blown me away like Ospreay. Some of the stuff he does is literally jaw dropping.

diusmr8a504cvk

Random question:

Scurll or Ospreay?

Agent Coulson

Is TNA secretly taking over WWE from the inside instead of competing against them so many of there top stars and now key to the WWE product.

Will we get the be reveal in a year or two that it's Dixie along saying....

It's Me Vince! it was me all along Austin!

[Deleted User]

Clegg wrote: »

I've just watched the latest 'Being The Elite'. Anyone who's a fan of wrestling needs to watch this. In fact anyone who is a fan of good story telling in any medium needs to give it a view. This is a few wrestlers recording on iPhones, telling a more moving story than WWE can with its legion of professional writers.

https://youtu.be/q08Ik2tiE2k

Did you notice "Dublin?" on the whiteboard for possible locations for the All In show

No way it's outside the US.

Lithium93_

Clegg wrote: »

I've just watched the latest 'Being The Elite'. Anyone who's a fan of wrestling needs to watch this. In fact anyone who is a fan of good story telling in any medium needs to give it a view. This is a few wrestlers recording on iPhones, telling a more moving story than WWE can with its legion of professional writers.

https://youtu.be/q08Ik2tiE2k

Far as I can recall, they keep New Japan & Ring Of Honor in the loop respectively in regards to story-lines, Marty joining Bullet Club was a NJPW decision I do believe.

Makes me wonder how they'll mark the 100th episode when they get to it.

Itssoeasy

J. Marston wrote: »

Would have said the same about Batista but he's done very well for himself.

Little Dave Batista(look it up, its funny/unpleasant) showed some bit of personality and charisma though. Roman reigns has none of that.

J. Marston

Would have said the same about Batista but he's done very well for himself.

sky88

PTH2009 wrote: »

one thing I can't see Reigns doing is following The Rock and Cena into the Hollywood

Reigns just doesn't have that about him

angry looking henchman i could see so kinda like his role in the shield

PTH2009

one thing I can't see Reigns doing is following The Rock and Cena into the Hollywood

Reigns just doesn't have that about him

sky88

martyos121 wrote: »

Just had a properly random thought there.

With the WWE Performance Centre taking in athletes and the likes who’ve never wrestled a day in their lives and then developing them in their own mould to solely wrestle the WWE style, how would these guys fare in the indies if any of them ever ended up there? Is the WWE approach so different that it’d be a shock to their systems or would they have sufficient wrestling experience to adapt? The PC is far from your standard wrestling school after all, the teachers are world class but I just wonder how different the methods are and how it affects the growth of rookies into actual pro-wrestlers.

Has anyone developed by the PC left yet and given it a go or made any decent impact in the indy scene?

was juice Robinson fully developed in the PC im not sure but the only one i could think of whos gone on the indies and developed

I think any of the guys there training from scratch could work well if they have the drive for the indies.

cody while not a PC guy is a wwe trained wrestler pretty much and look how successful hes become granted his name and jumping on the bullet club helped majorly with that.

x43r0

martyos121 wrote: »

Just had a properly random thought there.

With the WWE Performance Centre taking in athletes and the likes who’ve never wrestled a day in their lives and then developing them in their own mould to solely wrestle the WWE style, how would these guys fare in the indies if any of them ever ended up there? Is the WWE approach so different that it’d be a shock to their systems or would they have sufficient wrestling experience to adapt? The PC is far from your standard wrestling school after all, the teachers are world class but I just wonder how different the methods are and how it affects the growth of rookies into actual pro-wrestlers.

Has anyone developed by the PC left yet and given it a go or made any decent impact in the indy scene?

Not a reply to your question but a random thought of my own as I read the bolded part I got distracted by my brain taking over and shouting "Adam Cole BAYBAY!" in my head

martyos121

Just had a properly random thought there.

With the WWE Performance Centre taking in athletes and the likes who’ve never wrestled a day in their lives and then developing them in their own mould to solely wrestle the WWE style, how would these guys fare in the indies if any of them ever ended up there? Is the WWE approach so different that it’d be a shock to their systems or would they have sufficient wrestling experience to adapt? The PC is far from your standard wrestling school after all, the teachers are world class but I just wonder how different the methods are and how it affects the growth of rookies into actual pro-wrestlers.

Has anyone developed by the PC left yet and given it a go or made any decent impact in the indy scene?

Clegg

I've just watched the latest 'Being The Elite'. Anyone who's a fan of wrestling needs to watch this. In fact anyone who is a fan of good story telling in any medium needs to give it a view. This is a few wrestlers recording on iPhones, telling a more moving story than WWE can with its legion of professional writers.

https://youtu.be/q08Ik2tiE2k

Insect Overlord

JoshRosen wrote: »

I was struggling with all the new titles though, I know they’ve branded Raw & Smackdown as 2 different brands, I assume the championships in Raw are held in higher regard?

What about the WWE World Heavyweigjt Championship, I imagine surely the main Champion across the company is Brock?

I used to love the Tag-Team Championships but just flicking through the website, there isn’t a good gimmicky team name? Like the days of The Rock & Sock connection, Dudley Boyz, New Age Outlaws etc. It’s just there 2 names? Also, are there any stables anymore, like D-Generation-X, The Radicals, Mean Street Posse etc, or a link to a thread to help me catch up

Just to add to J. Marston's info, there are a few teams with names. The Bar (Sheamus and Cesaro), The Revival, The Miztourage, Breezango, The Ascension, The Bludgeon Brothers.

The New Day is the only stable I can think of off-hand at the moment (Kofi Kingston, Xavier Woods, Big E Langston) but The Shield are the crew most worth checking out from the last few years (Roman Reigns, Seth Rollins, Dean Ambrose). They'd still be working together a bit now if Ambrose wasn't out injured.

NXT is where the best stuff happens consistently. There are some great teams and factions there (Sanity, the Undisputed Era, the Authors of Pain, and soon you'll be seeing War Machine there too).

J. Marston

JoshRosen wrote: »

I posted this earlier on the Rumble Thread, realise now it wasn’t the place for it & didn’t get any traffic so if mods could delete it please, I’ll try it here if I can, if that’s allowed.

Hadn’t watched WWE in 17/18 years until this morning. (Working night shift tonight & my son has gotten into wwe last few months).

Although it never looked as staged as it did to me this morning, (due to being shown in HD I imagine) I can easily see myself starting to get interested in it again.

I was struggling with all the new titles though, I know they’ve branded Raw & Smackdown as 2 different brands, I assume the championships in Raw are held in higher regard?

What about the WWE World Heavyweigjt Championship, I imagine surely the main Champion across the company is Brock?

I used to love the Tag-Team Championships but just flicking through the website, there isn’t a good gimmicky team name? Like the days of The Rock & Sock connection, Dudley Boyz, New Age Outlaws etc. It’s just there 2 names? Also, are there any stables anymore, like D-Generation-X, The Radicals, Mean Street Posse etc, or a link to a thread to help me catch up

I just need something to get me a little up to speed.

The WHC has been retired. Now Raw has the Universal title which is about 2 years old.

Smackdown has the WWE title. Both are supposed to the same level.

Not many stables. Balor Club (Finn, Karl Anderson and Luke Gallows) is a new one.

Women have two. Riott Squad and Absolution, also both pretty new.

JoshRosen

I posted this earlier on the Rumble Thread, realise now it wasn’t the place for it & didn’t get any traffic so if mods could delete it please, I’ll try it here if I can, if that’s allowed.

Hadn’t watched WWE in 17/18 years until this morning. (Working night shift tonight & my son has gotten into wwe last few months).

Although it never looked as staged as it did to me this morning, (due to being shown in HD I imagine) I can easily see myself starting to get interested in it again.

I was struggling with all the new titles though, I know they’ve branded Raw & Smackdown as 2 different brands, I assume the championships in Raw are held in higher regard?

What about the WWE World Heavyweigjt Championship, I imagine surely the main Champion across the company is Brock?

I used to love the Tag-Team Championships but just flicking through the website, there isn’t a good gimmicky team name? Like the days of The Rock & Sock connection, Dudley Boyz, New Age Outlaws etc. It’s just there 2 names? Also, are there any stables anymore, like D-Generation-X, The Radicals, Mean Street Posse etc, or a link to a thread to help me catch up

I just need something to get me a little up to speed.

SureYWouldntYa

The fans chanting for women's partners was a bit crappy of the crowd, there seemed to be a lot of them there towards the end with big WWE partners

But so long as we don't have to hear "you suck Cena" then I don't mind too much because that was just scummy of the crowd when that happened

A Rogue Hobo

It's one of those things. I think fans do it thinking it comes across as a sign of respect when it does the opposite. To be honest though, as great as the women's rumble was last night they really can't have that as the main event going forward. The fact that a woman does a move and the whole crowd start chanting their husbands names isn't necessarily sexist or anything, it just means their husbands mean more to them personally and that is who they connect with.

Itssoeasy

sky88 wrote: »

this is one thing that really just annoys me about fans when they do this it really isnt nessecary. i mean if she was to do a taker move fair enough like when brie does bryans move i can live with it but to straight away chant taker and same with nikki

https://twitter.com/LanceStorm/status/957818477623967745

Yeah I don't get what they achieves in any way. And Michelle held her own Andy looked great in her own right.

sky88

this is one thing that really just annoys me about fans when they do this it really isnt nessecary. i mean if she was to do a taker move fair enough like when brie does bryans move i can live with it but to straight away chant taker and same with nikki

https://twitter.com/LanceStorm/status/957818477623967745

ERG89

It's actually nice to hear different opinions on here so I find complaining about how other people post a bit rich tbh. It's stuff like seeing that is the reason why this place is more quiet than it was few years ago & the news thread is dead too except when it forgoes the chat policy.

leggo

Jerichoholic wrote: »

Fake news, I enjoyed NXT last night and the two New Japan shows this weekend, pretty much all the New Japan shows.

Get off my back and get your cheap thanks somewhere else.

Dude, I know we've had run-ins but I mean this well: he's got a point. That's why he's getting thanks. You always seem to be giving out about wrestling. As someone who had to take some time to re-focus his fandom so that wrestling was a positive thing in his life (switching to watching Raw on YouTube instead of in-full helped A LOT), it's worth doing.

Grand there are some things that happen that are definitely worth laying into, but at the end of the day this is a hobby and if your hobby is such a negativity drain, why choose to follow it at all? There's plenty to like about wrestling these days and it's so easy to get now. And nobody cares about anyone else's 'hot takes' but their own, so sometimes it's better to just walk away from a show or topic that's ultimately gonna affect you in a negative way.

Jerichoholic

Agent Coulson wrote: »

It was just an observation that's all if if your that touchy about it no worries.

Cool done Ignore button is hit so neither of us will have to cross paths again.

Delicate enough, Jesus.

Agent Coulson

Jerichoholic wrote: »

Get off my back and get your cheap thanks somewhere else.

It was just an observation that's all if if your that touchy about it no worries.

Cool done Ignore button is hit so neither of us will have to cross paths again.

Jerichoholic

Agent Coulson wrote: »

I have to wonder do you get any enjoyment out of wrestling at all I really don't think I ever see any positive posts at all from you everything is negative to you from what I see on here.

Fake news, I enjoyed NXT last night and the two New Japan shows this weekend, pretty much all the New Japan shows.

Get off my back and get your cheap thanks somewhere else.

CastorTroy

But at least Cena has had a heel run, which helped get him over. Roman hasn't outside of The Shield. A lot of the popular wrestlers are that way from their heel run.

Agent Coulson

Vince made the mistake of never turning Cena because of the merch he sold but I doubt Roman sells anything like Cena.

Turning Roman heel the right way and having great merch prepared could be a huge money maker.

briany

Jerichoholic wrote: »

Turning him heel won't magically make people like him. I don't get that idea at all.

Heels have more scope to be entertaining, and I think that's why a load of the biggest faces of the last 25 years or so had a big heel run where they could establish their character. The fans might then take a liking, and would begin cheering. It's a pretty tried-and-tested path for a wrestler to make a true connection with the fans.

That's not to say it's a magic solution. Some wrestlers are a flop either way. But Vince and co. did once have the sense to say that, if a wrestler was being booed out of the building, the heel route was the way to go. Seems like basic good sense to ride the current of public opinion.

Adiboo

Agent Coulson wrote: »

I have to wonder do you get any enjoyment out of wrestling at all I really don't think I ever see any positive posts at all from you everything is negative to you from what I see on here.

I've been contemplating posting something like this too.

All that negativity is not good for a person.