Bannasidhe wrote: » Apologies. I don't remember it as being that close. I must say, having been involved in that particular campaign from the start that they are two different beasties. While Mar Eq did bring out some of the nasty, that was effectively turned into a positive for the campaign because so many 'ordinary' people came out and that turned the mood. The anti side began to be seen as (can't call them) homophobic bullies. Now - if we hear from the hundred of thousands of women who have been forced to travel for the last 30 years and their stories we might begin to see similarities. I would also say that the Mar Eq people, myself included, haven't even begun to campaign for Repeal yet - but we will be and we have learned some valuable lessons. The question is - has Iona?
Loafing Oaf wrote: » Is this what happens in practice though? Surely we'd have a much higher maternal mortality rate if it was?
Water John wrote: » Just to be clear, any sign of sepsis and medical will and should act, with medical intervention. Anything less is very poor practice, irrespective of the 8th.
Ralf and Florian wrote: » How stupid is this? It's the likes of this wan (Steph F) who will swing the undecided towards voting in favour of the 8th.https://twitter.com/Stephanenny/status/956885048044769280
darkdubh wrote: » Am the only person who finds it weird when Irish call out other Irish people for being white?
Joeytheparrot wrote: » Just wait until Iona gets its Anerican buddies to pour millions into social media advertising.
nice_guy80 wrote: » "This is the final frontier," the bishop declares. "If we cross it, there will be no easy way back."
Water John wrote: » My info from medical people, that have had to deal with such situations, is that once their is any sign of sepsis, they act and urgently. Close ongoing monitoring of the situation is key. Sepsis places the mothers life in serious danger and would be acted upon, always.
Nearly one-in-five patients who develops sepsis dies of the condition, it emerged today. This is despite a 30 per cent drop in hospital deaths from sepsis in the last five years... ... The report outlines that there were over 14,000 cases of sepsis nationally documented last year. [2016]
Bannasidhe wrote: » 1 in 5 of 14,000 is 2,800 deaths from sepsis in 2016.
mrmac wrote: » That's shocking! How many of those 14,000 cases were pregnancy related?
mrmac wrote: » Bannasidhe wrote: » 1 in 5 of 14,000 is 2,800 deaths from sepsis in 2016. That's shocking! How many of those 14,000 cases were pregnancy related?
Nettle Soup wrote: » Is it me or are all pro-life folks very easy to spot? They all seem to have certain similar traits.
WhiteRoses wrote: » Sinn Fein TD Donnchadh O’Laoighre has come out in support of removing the 8th, just watched an excellent speech he made on the subject on Facebook.
freshpopcorn wrote: » I find the middle of the road hard people to spot but the people who are big into the repeal campaign and the remain campaign are generally easy to spot. However I do know a few people who were big into the marriage referendum and wouldn't be mass goers and would be young men/women and they want to keep the eighth amendment.
david75 wrote: » ^^obvious youth defence sleeper account post.
freshpopcorn wrote: » The basic point of my post is you can't guarantee that somebody is pro-life or Pro choice just based on how they voted in the marriage referendum and if you want this repealed you got to vote.
david75 wrote: » I was joking but the body of the text is a tactic currently being employed by pro life in a lot of places to try work into people’s heads that it’s ok to vote against it. It’s a new tactic at least but it’s transparent and not as obvious yet weirdly insidious.
Water John wrote: » Where are you digging this 50% up from? Any sepsis is potentially lethal. Woman's life is at risk. You have to intervene, medically. Interpreting it any other way is just, poor medical practice.
Joeytheparrot wrote: Yes but they cant act until the mothers life is more than 50% in danger!!!!
Water John wrote: » You are incorrect, woman's live has priority and once there is risk to her life, medics must act. You don't seem to understand sepsis, which is a virulent, possibly fatal, infection. It's very presence puts the woman's life at risk and must be acted on, without delay. Nobody is waiting for a % risk to be analysed. Doctor, should and would be before the Medical Council for gross negligence.
