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What are your views on contraception?

Cabaal

I'm not looking for this to turn into any sort of abortion thread, I'm more curious about various christian groups and their views on contraception. This is related to the topic of the 8th but I don't want to see it derailed.

So, what christian religion are you and what are your views on contraception?
Do you believe the use of condoms, female condoms etc should be acceptable?, what are your views on the morning after pill?

If you are against contraception then what are your solutions to stop unplanned pregnancy's?
Also what are your views in relation to a married couple where one of the partners has aids, do you still think condom use in this situation is wrong?

Do you think that your religion (in cases of Catholics...the Vatican for example) should change with the needs and times and change its views on contraception?

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ouxbbkqtswdfaw

Fair enough. God has given you free will to decide as you wish. I am speaking the Truth. Think carefully.

Nekarsulm

n57oxds38gt6cz wrote: »

Fear God and give glory to Him,
For the hour of His Judgement has come.
And worship Him who made Heaven and Earth and the seas,
And the fountains of waters.

Absolutely, Owney.
The rest of the stuff you are preaching is all man-made invention.

ouxbbkqtswdfaw

Nekarsulm wrote:

Lots of posts here about literal application of old Jewish instructions ( many of which I fail to recognise as of any way applicable to Christians) Maybe useful if you are a Jewish sheep herder trying to populate a large area of the middle East, and living in fear of a terrible and vengeful God who is liable to rain down fire and brimstone if displeased. In fact, you can dispense with Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus and Numbers entirely, they have little use to modern Christians, save as curious historical texts.

Fear God and give glory to Him,
For the hour of His Judgement has come.
And worship Him who made Heaven and Earth and the seas,
And the fountains of waters.

Nekarsulm

Methodist here.
Contraception is a very sensible way to control the size of family, allowing each child to be provided for to the best of your ability and means.
Of course it's not always reliable, but sure that's a great example of the old Yiddish maxim "Man plans, and God laughts"!

Condoms female condoms, morning after pill, all great inventions.

Lots of posts here about literal application of old Jewish instructions ( many of which I fail to recognise as of any way applicable to Christians)
Maybe useful if you are a Jewish sheep herder trying to populate a large area of the middle East, and living in fear of a terrible and vengeful God who is liable to rain down fire and brimstone if displeased.
In fact, you can dispense with Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus and Numbers entirely, they have little use to modern Christians, save as curious historical texts.

Mancomb Seepgood

endacl wrote: »

Did you hear about the fella who came out of the Virgin Megastore with a Daniel O'Donnell album because he was too embarrassed to ask for condoms?

I heard the joke but it was the other way round.

RhubarbCrumble

endacl wrote: »

Did you hear about the fella who came out of the Virgin Megastore with a Daniel O'Donnell album because he was too embarrassed to ask for condoms?

I would have thought asking for the Daniel O' Donnell album would have been much more embarrassing

ouxbbkqtswdfaw

sbs2010 wrote:

If you are then it's a classic. If you're not, oh dear. Do you have any scripture references to back up your very specific understanding of what's allowed or not between two consenting adults?

Did you ever hear of onanism?

boardsuser1

eviltwin wrote: »

For religious reasons?

Partly.

ouxbbkqtswdfaw

eviltwin wrote:

Owen I can't tell if you are genuine or just someone here to take the piss. If you are serious then I feel a bit sorry for you. Science has provided is with the means to control our family and it's great, no-one would want to go back to the days of large families. The world has moved on and there is no going back.

You are not allowing for God in all of this. You have substituted God's role with that of science. This is all very well if you are a non believer. But if you are a believer you have some serious thinking to do.

eviltwin

Cork Truck Driver wrote: »

100% against it and always will be.

For religious reasons?

sbs2010

n57oxds38gt6cz wrote: »

If you restrain from masturbation for a few weeks, God provides an outlet for your sexual desire in the form of a wet dream.

Can you not see you're being wound up here? I only hope you are doing the same!!!

If you are then it's a classic. If you're not, oh dear. Do you have any scripture references to back up your very specific understanding of what's allowed or not between two consenting adults?

boardsuser1

100% against it and always will be.

ouxbbkqtswdfaw

Fuzzytrooper wrote:

Can you point me to scriptures that support this?

You are a child of God. Do you know what this means? You are to show restraint in sexual matters, just as with food, or drink. You are to be moderate in all your actions, and not give in to base desires.

endacl

Mancomb Seepgood wrote: »

I'm just about old enough to remember the counter in the old Virgin Megastore (I passed it on the way to the video games!) and all of the fuss about that - a bit daft in retrospect.

Did you hear about the fella who came out of the Virgin Megastore with a Daniel O'Donnell album because he was too embarrassed to ask for condoms?

eviltwin

n57oxds38gt6cz wrote: »

If you restrain from masturbation for a few weeks, God provides an outlet for your sexual desire in the form of a wet dream.

Owen I can't tell if you are genuine or just someone here to take the piss. If you are serious then I feel a bit sorry for you. Science has provided is with the means to control our family and it's great, no-one would want to go back to the days of large families. The world has moved on and there is no going back.

Just out of interest, are you married yourself?

ouxbbkqtswdfaw

eviltwin wrote:

What's this monthly wet dream you speak of?

If you restrain from masturbation for a few weeks, God provides an outlet for your sexual desire in the form of a wet dream.

Fuzzytrooper

n57oxds38gt6cz wrote: »

I have to tell that it is a very big problem. Furthermore, it is a sin, which must be confessed.

Can you point me to scriptures that support this?

lemmno

n57oxds38gt6cz wrote: »

If you're a Catholic you are not allowed to use rubbers, as you call them. Every act of intercourse must be open to the possibility of human life.

Also open to the possibility of some terrible disease if you don’t use them.

Mancomb Seepgood

Quaker here.In response to the perfectly sensible question the OP raised before the thread got derailed by ridiculous one-liners,I see no issue with contraception.I'm glad that it's largely considered a non-issue now and that people can access contraception services that meet the need of their particular circumstances.

I'm just about old enough to remember the counter in the old Virgin Megastore (I passed it on the way to the video games!) and all of the fuss about that - a bit daft in retrospect.

eviltwin

n57oxds38gt6cz wrote: »

Masturbation is a grievous sin, which must be confessed. If not, such sinners will not enter the Kingdom of God. God has provided for legitimate release of aged sperm in the monthly wet dream.

What's this monthly wet dream you speak of?

Owen just give yourself an aul tug there, come over to the dark side and see how it feels.

endacl

n57oxds38gt6cz wrote: »

Confession is an encounter with the Lord.

What about **** in the confessional? Special dispensation?

ouxbbkqtswdfaw

I tell you this. Unless you become as a little child, you shall not enter the Kingdom of God. If you do not enter the Kingdom of God, you go to the place of endless darkness.

ouxbbkqtswdfaw

_Brian wrote:

When you say â€œtell the lordâ€ Have you conceded to my point on the confession thread that you didnâ€™t answer that a just and forgiving god would hear My confession directly and so there would be no need for me to go to confession â€œlocallyâ€.

Confession is an encounter with the Lord.

The Specialist

n57oxds38gt6cz wrote: »

Masturbation is a grievous sin, which must be confessed. If not, such sinners will not enter the Kingdom of God. God has provided for legitimate release of aged sperm in the monthly wet dream.

What does he think of reacharounds, sinful or a magnificent display of dexterity?

_Brian

n57oxds38gt6cz wrote: »

I will put it like this. You must be free of sin to enter the Kingdom of God. In order to do this Christ instituted the sacrament of penance. You don't have to detail every aspect of your illicit sexual activity. Just tell the Lord you are sorry for all the selfish things you did during sex.

When you say “tell the lord”
Have you conceded to my point on the confession thread that you didn’t answer that a just and forgiving god would hear My confession directly and so there would be no need for me to go to confession “locally”.

ouxbbkqtswdfaw

The Specialist wrote:

Needed a good laugh tonight, you've delivered. Don't **** too hard Oweny, you might spill something and never get to heaven...

Masturbation is a grievous sin, which must be confessed. If not, such sinners will not enter the Kingdom of God. God has provided for legitimate release of aged sperm in the monthly wet dream.

eviltwin

n57oxds38gt6cz wrote: »

It's selfish for one partner.

Only if you don't reciprocate. These kinds of things are not an alternative to sex, for most they are part of the build up. So no waste of sperm. Your sex life sounds dull Owen. You must sometimes long for more.

Tenigate

Cabaal wrote: »

Do you think that your religion (in cases of Catholics...the Vatican for example) should change with the needs and times and change its views on contraception?

It's like slapping God in the face.

Just messing. I don't see a lot wrong with it as a means of preventing unwanted pregnancies... Particularly for people who would make bad parents (drug/alcohol abusers, unstable or nonexistent relationships)

The Specialist

Needed a good laugh tonight, you've delivered. Don't **** too hard Oweny, you might spill something and never get to heaven...

ouxbbkqtswdfaw

eviltwin wrote:

A blow job isn't selfish, quite the opposite I would have thought.

It's selfish for one partner.