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What are your views on contraception?

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I'm not looking for this to turn into any sort of abortion thread, I'm more curious about various christian groups and their views on contraception. This is related to the topic of the 8th but I don't want to see it derailed.

So, what christian religion are you and what are your views on contraception?
Do you believe the use of condoms, female condoms etc should be acceptable?, what are your views on the morning after pill?

If you are against contraception then what are your solutions to stop unplanned pregnancy's?
Also what are your views in relation to a married couple where one of the partners has aids, do you still think condom use in this situation is wrong?

Do you think that your religion (in cases of Catholics...the Vatican for example) should change with the needs and times and change its views on contraception?

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ouxbbkqtswdfaw

Remember the list of those who will not enter the Kingdom of God. Fornicators are high on the list. A fornicator is one who sins against his own body.

eviltwin

n57oxds38gt6cz wrote: »

I will put it like this. You must be free of sin to enter the Kingdom of God. In order to do this Christ instituted the sacrament of penance. You don't have to detail every aspect of your illicit sexual activity. Just tell the Lord you are sorry for all the selfish things you did during sex.

A blow job isn't selfish, quite the opposite I would have thought.

ouxbbkqtswdfaw

Nick Park wrote:

I'm an Evangelical Christian, and contraception is a very sensible idea as far as I'm concerned. I see no conflict whatsoever between contraception and a biblically grounded faith in Christ.

You are not leaving open the possibility of new life.

ouxbbkqtswdfaw

_Brian wrote:

Thatâ€™s â€œAâ€ view but not the only view possible.

I will put it like this. You must be free of sin to enter the Kingdom of God. In order to do this Christ instituted the sacrament of penance. You don't have to detail every aspect of your illicit sexual activity. Just tell the Lord you are sorry for all the selfish things you did during sex.

Nick Park

Back to the OP.

I'm an Evangelical Christian, and contraception is a very sensible idea as far as I'm concerned. I see no conflict whatsoever between contraception and a biblically grounded faith in Christ.

eviltwin

n57oxds38gt6cz wrote: »

Still the sperm must end up in the woman.

It does. At least if does if you're okay to swallow.

endacl

You really are in the running for the 'Most Appropriate Username' award, Oweny.

_Brian

n57oxds38gt6cz wrote: »

I have to tell that it is a very big problem. Furthermore, it is a sin, which must be confessed.

That’s “A” view but not the only view possible.

ouxbbkqtswdfaw

eviltwin wrote:

Yes but if the sperm isn't needed because a pregnancy isn't possible it's okay right?

Still the sperm must end up in the woman.

ouxbbkqtswdfaw

_Brian wrote:

Thereâ€™s no problem at all.

I have to tell that it is a very big problem. Furthermore, it is a sin, which must be confessed.

eviltwin

n57oxds38gt6cz wrote: »

Yes, what you say is true. The problem with oral sex is, besides being a debasement of one of the partners, is that it results in the spillage of the sacred sperm.

Yes but if the sperm isn't needed because a pregnancy isn't possible it's okay right?

_Brian

eviltwin wrote: »

Yes but not every sexual act is about creating a human, sometimes it's just for pleasure. Sometimes pregnancy isn't possible. If a woman is already pregnant for example, what's the problem with oral sex etc?

There’s no problem at all.

Lots of the over Interpretation from scripture is just a control mechanism to allow people be dominated and become sub servant.

ouxbbkqtswdfaw

eviltwin wrote:

Yes but not every sexual act is about creating a human, sometimes it's just for pleasure. Sometimes pregnancy isn't possible. If a woman is already pregnant for example, what's the problem with oral sex etc?

Yes, what you say is true. The problem with oral sex is, besides being a debasement of one of the partners, is that it results in the spillage of the sacred sperm.

eviltwin

n57oxds38gt6cz wrote: »

What I mean by that is that you have a high calling given you by God to cooperate with Him in the momentous act of creating a human being.

Yes but not every sexual act is about creating a human, sometimes it's just for pleasure. Sometimes pregnancy isn't possible. If a woman is already pregnant for example, what's the problem with oral sex etc?

ouxbbkqtswdfaw

Pherekydes wrote:

Abstinence didn't prevent Mary becoming pregnant with Jesus.

Oh, right.

ouxbbkqtswdfaw

eviltwin wrote:

AFAIK animals don't do any of the things I mentioned.

What I mean by that is that you have a high calling given you by God to cooperate with Him in the momentous act of creating a human being.

Pherekydes

n57oxds38gt6cz wrote: »

What do you mean?

Abstinence didn't prevent Mary becoming pregnant with Jesus.

ouxbbkqtswdfaw

eviltwin wrote:

So straight sex only, no fun stuff. Are female orgasms okay or is the sole function to reach ejaculation alone?

I didn't say that. You are not reading my posts carefully.

eviltwin

n57oxds38gt6cz wrote: »

Absolutely forbidden. Remember you are human, not animal. Respect yourself as a son or daughter of God, which you are, and rise above the morals of the animal.

AFAIK animals don't do any of the things I mentioned.

eviltwin

n57oxds38gt6cz wrote: »

Absolutely forbidden.

So straight sex only, no fun stuff. Are female orgasms okay or is the sole function to reach ejaculation alone?

ouxbbkqtswdfaw

Absolutely forbidden. Remember you are human, not animal. Respect yourself as a son or daughter of God, which you are, and rise above the morals of the animal.

eviltwin

n57oxds38gt6cz wrote: »

Foreplay is of course allowed However, sexual activity ie oral sex is a debasement of proper sexual activity.

Well most foreplay is sexual activity so that doesn't really explain it.

What about sex toys? Role playing? Using porn?

ouxbbkqtswdfaw

Foreplay is of course allowed However, sexual activity ie oral sex is a debasement of proper sexual activity.

You are entitled to fondle by hand each others sexual organs, and other parts of the human body, but with the proviso that the full emission is deposited in the vagina, thus holding open the possibility of new life, should God desire it.

eviltwin

n57oxds38gt6cz wrote: »

I said that foreplay is of course allowed.

But you also said oral sex is not allowed, I would consider oral sex to be part of foreplay.

Makes me wonder what other practices are frowned upon.

ouxbbkqtswdfaw

Pherekydes wrote:

Obviously untrue. Think about the founder of the Christian church.

What do you mean?

Pherekydes

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

The only fail-safe method of contraception is abstinence.

Obviously untrue. Think about the founder of the Christian church.

ouxbbkqtswdfaw

I said that foreplay is of course allowed.

eviltwin

n57oxds38gt6cz wrote: »

Oral sex is forbidden for it conforms to base animal instincts. I said that the FULL ejaculation must be deposited in the female vagina. You, as a son of God must rise above your animal nature, and become a co worker with Almighty God in His divine plan for procreation.

Well you can engage in oral sex as a precursor to intercourse.

Are you saying that couples should just go straight into intercourse without doing anything beforehand to get the mood going?

ouxbbkqtswdfaw

Foreplay is of course allowed, both man and woman are entitled to pleasure each other.

_Brian

I think we’re seeing some serious and vigorous interpretations here.

In places scripture says an eye for an eye, if we take every single word literally there would be a hell of allot of blind people bumbling about, and yet there aren’t, because not every word needs to be taken literally, even the church see that would be foolish.