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Mum of 4 jailed for stealing €100k from the social

gordongekko

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/motheroffour-jailed-for-stealing-around-100k-in-fraudulent-social-welfare-payments-36530689.html

She gave up the job now and is paying back €25 a week. It'll take her 4000 weeks to pay us back out of the money we give her for free

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hairyslug

Is there no cross reference between depts and pps numbers

Boom_Bap

hairyslug wrote: »

Is there no cross reference between depts and pps numbers

She had 2 pps numbers, at different addresses. She found a loophole by the sounds of thangs.

rgodard80a

Probably a mum of 4 grown-up children if she's 61 years old.

I reckon take the house off her, sell it to pay back.
She can rent from now on.

For Forks Sake

gordongekko wrote: »

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/motheroffour-jailed-for-stealing-around-100k-in-fraudulent-social-welfare-payments-36530689.html

She gave up the job now and is paying back €25 a week. It'll take her 4000 weeks to pay us back out of the money we give her for free

She'll still have it repaid before Mick Wallace does.

kneemos

Twenty five quid a week for eight years is a hundred grand!
Who knew?

splinter65

Boom_Bap wrote: »

She had 2 pps numbers, at different addresses. She found a loophole by the sounds of thangs.

Glad to see the judge ignoring her sob story.
Wait now for the lefties to come along with the “what about the bankers” nonsense.
€20 billion+ a year on SW. If cretins like this didn’t steal double what their entitled too maybe there’d be more for carers and disabled people.
Nothing to do with bankers.

dinneenp

Her lawyers told Dublin Circuit Criminal Court that she had used the money to “pay her mortgage, keep a roof over her head and look after her children

So what? She was still stealing, as someone said should be made sell the house.

El Weirdo

splinter65 wrote: »

Wait now for the lefties to come along with the “what about the bankers” nonsense.

Pretty sure this isn't going to happen.

splinter65

rgodard80a wrote: »

Probably a mum of 4 grown-up children if she's 61 years old.

I reckon take the house off her, sell it to pay back.
She can rent from now on.

Please don’t. She’ll be on the front of the Herald crying in her hotel bedroom in The Gresham being comforted by Richard Boyd “magic money tree” Barrett.

HONKEY TONK

10 months lol.

She won't be going to prison for even a week let alone 10 months.

Is this in the defence rule book?

chronic coeliac, depression, anxiety, separated, extremely remorseful, married a chronic alcoholic bla bla bla.

splinter65

El Weirdo wrote: »

Pretty sure this isn't going to happen.

Someone’s here’s already said she’ll have paid her debt before M Wallace pays his.

[Deleted User]

The absolutely not an identity card - public services card - helped verify her true identity it seems.

splinter65

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

The absolutely not an identity card - public services card - helped verify her true identity it seems.

But we must resist the PSC because nobody needs to know my business and I must be allowed to rob from my fellow citizens if I see fit.

Your Face

Outrage porn for the the impotently angry.

Red_Wake

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

The absolutely not an identity card - public services card - helped verify her true identity it seems.

Long may it reign.

[Deleted User]

Red_Wake wrote: »

Long may it reign.

Yeah, King Public Services Card, has a nice ring to it.

Skylinehead

kneemos wrote: »

Twenty five quid a week for eight years is a hundred grand!
Who knew?

It's 10 grand...

gordongekko

kneemos wrote: »

Twenty five quid a week for eight years is a hundred grand!
Who knew?

Only people who are terrible at maths

suicide_circus

Your Face wrote: »

Outrage porn for the the impotently angry.

Does that make you the kleenex?

Odhinn

HONKEY TONK wrote: »

10 months lol.

She won't be going to prison for even a week let alone 10 months.

Is this in the defence rule book?

chronic coeliac, depression, anxiety, separated, extremely remorseful, married a chronic alcoholic bla bla bla.

So do we sentence people regardless of circumstance?

wexie

Skylinehead wrote: »

It's 10 grand...

Which means to pay back the total this 'lady' would have to be paying for the next 80 ears....

Wouldn't mind an arrangement like that for my mortgage

wexie

Odhinn wrote: »

So do we sentence people regardless of circumstance?

Sometimes it seems so, other times not so much. Finding it hard to tell really.
Not that I think any of her issues are a valid excuse for 100K fraud....having said that I think there are a lot of people out there who seem to have got a lot more leniency and are far more deserving of jailtime

RoboRat

Odhinn wrote: »

So do we sentence people regardless of circumstance?

You do the crime, you do the time. There are always alternatives.

Odhinn

Your Face wrote: »

Outrage porn for the the impotently angry.

As this is now the main story on the indo web page, I'd have to agree.

Cool_CM

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

The absolutely not an identity card - public services card - helped verify her true identity it seems.

Excellent stuff! I am in favour of this.

SEPT 23 1989

her second mistake was having no previous convictions

seamus

Boom_Bap wrote: »

She had 2 pps numbers, at different addresses. She found a loophole by the sounds of thangs.

Married women used to not be issued PPSN/PRSI numbers.

Then things were changed so that they used their husband's number with a "W" on the end for "Wife". That sounds like a joke, but it's not.

Then they realised that married women are not chattel, and started just giving everyone their own PPSN. Married women however can continue to use their slave PPSN until the husband dies or they separate.

I would suspect that this individual continued to use her married PPSN and also applied for a personal PPSN.

Zero sympathy for her sob stories about keeping a roof over their head and "everyone else is doing it". She had to go to significant effort to carry out this fraud, it's not something that happened by accident or circumstance, and she knew damn well that it was fraud, hence the second address.

BattleCorp

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

The absolutely not an identity card - public services card - helped verify her true identity it seems.

I've absolutely no problem with an identity card. If it helps cut out social welfare fraud, then great.

I wouldn't be in favour of requiring someone to carry it at all times, but if you want to access government services, then I've no problem with requiring it then.

professore

HONKEY TONK wrote: »

10 months lol.

She won't be going to prison for even a week let alone 10 months.

Is this in the defence rule book?

chronic coeliac, depression, anxiety, separated, extremely remorseful, married a chronic alcoholic bla bla bla.

What's a chronic coeliac? Pretty sure being a coeliac is chronic by definition, living with two of them as I do.

Permabear

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