Bass Reeves wrote: » There is an article on page 10 of the FI today regarding sucklers. A coupled payment in the order of 200/head would cost about 18% of the basic scheme if the money came from there. Micheal Creed told the IFA AGM lastr week that a 200 euro payment might undermine the BDGP scheme. If he is right then suckler farmers would only get 80/head extra on the cow and lose on the BPS. The ICSA make the point that it is the larger farmers who would mostly be on better land that are exiting. The map with the reduction accross counties shows this with Waterford -18% andTipp, Kilkenny, Wexfordin the 9-11% mark. But along the western seaboard with the exception of Donegal the figures are sub 5%. As for the meeting in Offaly I have been at one or two like that inside and outside farming. Usually lads that are vocal are not willing to change. It can be at a trade union meeting or a farmers meeting. On a side note was parked outside a shed this morning filled with AA bullocks in the 650-700kg mark. On adlib ration and silage some already over fat. IMO these cattle should have been killed two weeks ago. Price of 10c/kg will have cost him 35/head and on any he loses AA bonus another 50-70/head as well as the over fat penalty.. Lads finishing cattle out of sheds are again getting it in the back of the neck. It is immaterial what breed they are.
wrangler wrote: » That's the point they don't want to change, they want to be able to stay at what they're at. They had huge support from O'Cuiv and marian Harkin the last time. A lot would agree with the mart manager, the quality of cattle is deteriorating rapidly, If the northern buyers are losing interest, it mightn't be long until other customers lose interest
wrangler wrote: » patsy_mccabe wrote: » Obviously the guy that proposed the €300, has haggled before. Go high and settle low, as they say. Yes, I've come up against him before......we had very different agendas in the last CAP reform.....often locked horns, he was flying the flag for flatrate subs. Mightn't oppose him as much on his new quest
patsy_mccabe wrote: » Obviously the guy that proposed the €300, has haggled before. Go high and settle low, as they say.
Willfarman wrote: » The pair of ye should lay off the viagra! But what would his new quest do for you rangler? Believe it or not it would be great news for me. The more store cattle for sale the easier it is for me to buy value. No matter what Larry does to me I just do my best to pass it down the line..
wrangler wrote: » I've had a few bad experiences on a lane that there was never houses and now there's eight, couldn't get one crowd to keep in their dogs in until eventually they did harm to inlamb ewes. Now they're complaining about dirt on the road, FFS, Wait till the guy that has my land rented starts to draw slurry. Anyway not my problem now but you see what I mean
Buford T. Justice V wrote: » Interesting tweet about the changes in Irish Ag since 1983.https://twitter.com/MaryDelaneyKK/status/955538487293464576
Mooooo wrote: » Perhaps bufords post should be in this thread
Willfarman wrote: » Are you letting to the highest bidder or the best candidate? A farm near me here let to a great farming family that used to own it. Ditches trimmed. Wire on all bounds. Tidy. Auctioneer pushed for more money and let a new man in last year the few extra bob wouldn't come close to rectifying the state of the place! I can't understand landowners mindset.
patsy_mccabe wrote: » So the general consensus would be that farmers are opposed to a suckler cow subsidy.
Grueller wrote: » Now now. I have 70ish of the yokes so don't assume that at all.
Say my name wrote: » With France possibly taking back the Turkey trade in the future and the future of suckler cows in Ireland now protected. Will we see an increase in the IFA's popularity and perhaps tar barrels back out in front of the meat factories in 2 years time? Asking for a friend.
Willfarman wrote: » http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/category/beef/
Bass Reeves wrote: » Just looking at world cattle prices in the FJ. France the bastion for farmers with its suckler cow has the lowest cattle price in the EU with the exception of Poland and Netherlands.. It is 30c/kg behind us or 120 euro on a 400kg carcasses
wrangler wrote: » Anytime I was in France, the Irish beef price was ahead of the french price, And the french lamb price a €1/kg more
mayota wrote: » Scheme introduced in 1964 to increase national suckler herd. £15 per heifer.
Who2 wrote: » By chance I found a note pad today that belonged to my grandfather. He used to have a bull that would be for hire it was from 1959-64. I went down through the names and he had paid and unpaid beside them, it was a dread to see the families who hadn’t paid and the worst part being there grandchildren and children would be very similar today. Every cow that was brought to him had a name. I found similar files on agri grants and such too so I must find them and post them up.
patsy_mccabe wrote: » You can sign online;https://www.change.org/p/save-our-sucklers-open-letter-from-the-readers-of-the-irish-farmers-journal-saveoursucklers
Bass Reeves wrote: » If you watch it for a while you will see no movement and often then you will see 3-5 added together. I imagine that someone sign's for themselves and the rest of the family. So you could divide total number by 3-4 to get a realistic number taht is supporting it.
charolais0153 wrote: » You have to put your name and email address on it. Only one signing per email address is allowed. How are they signing it 4 times in a split second as u are saying?
